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Post by gwek on Mar 12, 2010 11:13:11 GMT -5
I'm thinking now that her CE should only affect non-unique followers. I agree. Unless anyone disagrees, I'll change it in the next update. Any thoughts on the odd/even vs win/lose Initiative angle? They don't have to be Military Reserves, but here's what went into my decision (not necessarily in order): 1) If she had regular reserves, I'd probably knock it to 20 for balance purposes. Ozzel already has Imperial Reserves 20. Now, if you're looking for Reserves, you can either have more (with Daala) or more variety (with Ozzel). It helps keep the two of them more distinct. 2) Military Reserves was already created for Saul Karath as "non-Unique followers without a Force rating." It worked both thematically and mechanically for Saul (mechanically, primarily in limiting what Old Rep pieces he can port into the Sith faction). Similarly, I think it works thematically for Daala. She's does not like competition (so would be looking primarily to recruit followers, especially non-Unique ones), and she has a history of anti-Jedi bias (making the without a Force rating part work thematically). If I'm doing the math right, there's actually not that big a difference in the character range. I think Ozzel (Reserves 20) can recruit 46 distinct characters (not counting duplicates), while Daala (Military Reserves 30) can recruit 38 distinct characters. Bottom line, though: It makes her a little more unique of an option, and since we've already made up the ability, why not use it again (since it works thematically)?
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Post by bountyhunter9 on Mar 12, 2010 15:41:15 GMT -5
I'm thinking now that her CE should only affect non-unique followers. I agree. Unless anyone disagrees, I'll change it in the next update. Any thoughts on the odd/even vs win/lose Initiative angle? They don't have to be Military Reserves, but here's what went into my decision (not necessarily in order): 1) If she had regular reserves, I'd probably knock it to 20 for balance purposes. Ozzel already has Imperial Reserves 20. Now, if you're looking for Reserves, you can either have more (with Daala) or more variety (with Ozzel). It helps keep the two of them more distinct. 2) Military Reserves was already created for Saul Karath as "non-Unique followers without a Force rating." It worked both thematically and mechanically for Saul (mechanically, primarily in limiting what Old Rep pieces he can port into the Sith faction). Similarly, I think it works thematically for Daala. She's does not like competition (so would be looking primarily to recruit followers, especially non-Unique ones), and she has a history of anti-Jedi bias (making the without a Force rating part work thematically). If I'm doing the math right, there's actually not that big a difference in the character range. I think Ozzel (Reserves 20) can recruit 46 distinct characters (not counting duplicates), while Daala (Military Reserves 30) can recruit 38 distinct characters. Bottom line, though: It makes her a little more unique of an option, and since we've already made up the ability, why not use it again (since it works thematically)? I agree with everything Gwek posted here. Changing the CE to non-Uniques is a great choice, and will bring her cost down a bit. And I think Military Reserves are a good choice for Daala, because, as Gwek said, we've already created them for Saul Karath and they fit Daala and her faction well. As far as the odd/even and win/lose initiative things, I think it should be odd/even. If it's win/lose, you could just pair her with Thrawn and give your squad +4 to all rolls or +4 attack for nearly the whole skirmish.
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Post by Roque Saber on Mar 12, 2010 16:19:26 GMT -5
Ya, it should definitely be odd/even. Military Reserves is fine, I just wanted to know your reasoning behind it.
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Post by gwek on Mar 12, 2010 20:49:44 GMT -5
How about tweaks to the HP/Attack/Defense? I think a few people thought they might be a little low?
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Post by Dendrite on Mar 12, 2010 21:51:14 GMT -5
Right. I think 60 HP 16-18 Def and 7-9 attack fit her nicely
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Post by bountyhunter9 on Mar 12, 2010 22:23:50 GMT -5
I think we had them so low because it may seem odd if she has more HP and better stats than Tarkin. However, I could see the def and atk on the lower end of the ranges Dendrite suggested. Sixty HP seems a little high, 50 might be better, but it doesn't really matter to me.
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Post by Roque Saber on Mar 13, 2010 2:06:50 GMT -5
50's a good number. 17 defense is average-high, and 8 attack gives her some change to hit (especially with Thrawn).
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Post by gwek on Mar 13, 2010 9:28:25 GMT -5
How about this?
Admiral Daala Cost: 19 Faction: Imperial Hit Points: 50 Defense: 16 Attack: 8 Damage: 10
Unique Imperial Military Reserves 30 (If you roll exactly 6 for initiative, you can add up to 30 points of non-Unique Imperial followers without a Force rating to your squad immediately before your first activation of the round)
Commander Effect: If your initiative check is an odd number, non-Unique followers within 6 squares get +4 to all rolls for the round; if it is an even number, non-Unique followers within 6 squares get -4 to all rolls instead. Non-unique Imperial followers without a Force rating within 6 squares can make 1 immediate attack when they are defeated.
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Post by Roque Saber on Mar 13, 2010 11:03:27 GMT -5
I would sign off on that for around low to mid 20's, maybe even high teens (since her Karmic Luck CE doesn't always help...).
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Post by gwek on Mar 13, 2010 12:15:39 GMT -5
How about 19? That prices her around Nyna Calixte (18), and, hey, there aren't any unique Imperials commanders that cost 19. Arbitrary, I know, but why not?
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Post by bountyhunter9 on Mar 13, 2010 12:22:54 GMT -5
Nineteen sounds like a good cost. I'll sign off to that.
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Post by Roque Saber on Mar 13, 2010 13:02:12 GMT -5
Sounds good. Let's get another confirmation or two, then I'll lock her up.
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Post by Dendrite on Mar 13, 2010 16:46:46 GMT -5
While I kinda miss Blaster Rifle Upgrade, I think we've made a good piece. Approved!
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Post by surfrider56 on Mar 15, 2010 1:29:12 GMT -5
Gone for the weekend ... seems the group has decided and who am I to rock the boat; works for me as is.
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Post by bountyhunter9 on Jun 24, 2010 0:34:31 GMT -5
Do we need to revisit Daala? Obviously, her stats will fit easily on a card, so there's no problem there. These are the stats we previously finalized:
Still look good?
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