Ganner Rhysode

[xpraider]

Jan 22, 2010 17:07:14 GMT -5 Roque Saber said:

K, here's the stats for reference:

Ganner Rhysode - 35-50 pts

HP: 130
DEF: 20
ATT: 15
DA: 20

-Unique
-Melee Attack
-Twin Attack
-Crowd Fighting?
-Impulsive Master of the Force?

F2 Renewal 1
-Lightsaber Sweep
-Overwhelming Force
-Force Bubble/Lightsaber Riposte

Twin and Sweep I like. Overwhelming Force makes sense, as does Riposte (or Bubble). Impulsive MotF I'm not sure on, as well as Crowd Fighting (though it does fit the scene).

I like the riposte with Twin. I think Crowd Fighting Fits, not sure if Overwhelming Force does or not.

Do we want his base stats to be that high though? I think his base stats might be a bit high for him, since other than his Last Stand I don't think he really stood out that much.

One thing we could add as well though is Levitate, since he was supposed to be very skilled at Telekinesis.

[saber1]

I think this is closer, although I'd like to see some of this conditional.

Ganner Rhysode - 35-45 pts

HP: 100
DEF: 20
ATT: 13
DA: 20

Unique
Melee Attack
Twin Attack
Crowd Fighting

F2 FR 1
Force Bubble
Lightsaber Sweep
Lightsaber Riposte

Possibilities for conditional boost:
Impulsive Lightsaber Sweep (gains LS Sweep after unique is defeated)
Impulsive Twin Attack (gains Twin Attack ...)
Last Stand (This character gains +4 Attack and X ability while it has less than half HP remaining)

[bountyhunter9]

I like saber1's version; I though the HPs were a little too high on the last one (though I would suggest adding 10 more if we don't include a 'Last Stand' ability). I like the idea of Impulsive Twin Attack, though I don't remember anyone actually dying that made him make the final stand.

[Roque Saber]

Agreed. It wasn't someone's death that triggered his stand, it was a response to the situation. Lol, I'm gonna contradict myself (see page 1 or 2). Shii-Cho might work on him. Lots of enemies surround him, he gets a big stat boost and can use Twin/Sweep to own them all.

Tbh, I liked 130 as his HP. He's a tank piece, he'll need some beefy HP to be able to last.

[bountyhunter9]

Shii-Cho would be really nice on this piece (whether or not he used the form). Think of it as an upgraded version of Crowd Fighting without having to making a new ability.

@rs: 130 HP is huge, and I thought we nailed him down as an average Jedi, apart from his last stand. I think 110 (as long as we don't go with something requiring half HP) would be fine, though I would be fine with 130 too, if others think that would be better. Anyone have any thoughts/suggestions?

[Roque Saber]

Ok, I guess 110 would be acceptable.

Ganner Rhysode - 40ish

HP: 110
DEF: 19
ATT: 13
DA: 20

Unique
Melee Attack
Twin Attack
Shii-Cho Style

F2 FR 1
Force Bubble
Force Repulse 3?
Lightsaber Sweep
Lightsaber Riposte

I added Repulse 3 as another "mob" ability (I could totally see him using it against the Vong).

[bountyhunter9]

Looks really good. Repulse 3 could represent him "bringing down the ceiling" on the enemies. I don't think the NR has access to Repulse (other than Maris Brood, who's pretty pricey), so I think it would be an interesting thing for him to have.

Did we take Bubble off of Celeste?

[Roque Saber]

Yes. Celeste is losing Bubble (unless otherwise noted). What does everyone else think of our current Ganner?

[jhart]

Ganner is a jedi knight and a contemporary of jacen and jaina. The stats you have given him are more fitting of a master.

HP 100
Att 11
Def 18
Dam 20

would be more appropriate.

I know we do not like making new special abilities, but I have thought of one that might be very apropriate on ganner.

Self Sacrifice: This character may use a force power without spending force points. After the force power is resolved, this character takes 10 times the force cost in damage. This damage may not be reduced, redirected, or removed.

I was thinking, give him this ability, and 3 force, no force renewal, and maby repulse 5 instead of 3.

This power combination would fit his story better than an impulsive or bloodied ability. After all, he was not forced to sacrifice himself. He chose to.

[Roque Saber]

At this point, he doesn't have an Impulsive or bloodied ability....

It's a neat idea, but I don't think it's necessary to the piece. He doesn't really need another ability to represent his final stand, I think the current stats do a pretty good job with that.

However, you do make a good points about him being similar to Jacen and Jaina.

Ganner Rhysode - low to mid 40's.

HP: 110
DEF: 18
ATT: 13
DA: 20

Unique
Melee Attack
Twin Attack
Shii-Cho Style

F2 FR 1
Force Bubble
Force Repulse 3
Lightsaber Sweep
Lightsaber Riposte

How does he look?

[xpraider]

Eh. Stats still seem a bit too high. Do we really want another 40+ NR figure? He might be better served if we can get him into the low 30s.

[gwek]

I think he's got enough special abilities that his stats could go a little lower without really impairing his effectiveness. If we want to give him more conditional abilities, I think Loner would be a good way to represent his "last stand," and although it's a bit odd in terms of flavor, I could even see "Impulsive Regeneration" as a good way to represent his implacability when standing his ground (and that would take the sting out of lowering HP/Defense without raising the cost too much).

[Roque Saber]

Impulsive Regeneration is definitely interesting, though it does use the whole "death of another" trigger. What if he just had Regeneration 20 naturally?

[gwek]

Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with it for this particular version of this particular character.

[Roque Saber]

Ganner Rhysode - low to mid 40's.

HP: 100
DEF: 18
ATT: 12
DA: 20

Unique
Melee Attack
Twin Attack
Regeneration 20
Shii-Cho Style

F2 FR 1
Force Bubble
Force Repulse 3
Lightsaber Sweep
Lightsaber Riposte

So right now, he kind of has to be in the middle of a group of baddies to be effective (activating Shii-Cho). Once he's in there, he's got a number of options on how to blow em up. Very flavorful.