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Post by Dendrite on Dec 22, 2009 14:17:34 GMT -5
Thus being said...Hmm Vong allies gain Deceptive and Twin? I kinda like that. It serves a nice purpose. Maybe somewhere we can throw in Demolish, so the Vong will be able to penetrate DR pieces with their mighty sticks!
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Post by Dendrite on Jan 3, 2010 11:51:56 GMT -5
We probably don't want to go with the 'use 2 abilities instead pf 1' CE anymore aince we have it finalized on the Yammosk.
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Post by darthgrievous on Jan 3, 2010 19:52:33 GMT -5
So lets go with Deceptive and Twin then...
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Post by gwek on Jan 3, 2010 21:58:29 GMT -5
Twin will help most of the older pieces, but very few of the newer ones (who mostly have Twin already). Not necessarily bad, but I wanted to mention it.
I like Deceptive, but if you look at the stats for existing Vong pieces, I wonder if they might not be better off with something else to increase their attack rather than damage. There are at least 2 or 3 Vong who can increase their damage (Shaper, Scarification, Poison+10), but they still have very low attack rates.
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Post by darthgrievous on Jan 4, 2010 8:46:16 GMT -5
Hmm How about Charging Assault and Gregarious?
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Post by Roque Saber on Jan 4, 2010 11:18:19 GMT -5
Gregarious is also on the Yammosk. GWEk is right, the Vong need attack boosters, not damage boosters. A flat out +3/+4 is possible, or we could use Kit Fisto's CE from CS. That could actually work really well with how the Vong work. Tack on Bloodthirtsy to Shimmra's CE and you've got an efficient clean up team.
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Post by darthgrievous on Jan 4, 2010 11:47:32 GMT -5
Hmm, I like that a lot combination of bloodthirsty with Booming Voice with Yammosk makes a hell of a punch.
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Post by gwek on Jan 4, 2010 14:23:55 GMT -5
I like Bloodthirsty (which seems appropriate to the Vong, especially when paired with Shimmra).
I'd also like to throw Bravado into the ring as a possible damage booster:
Bravado (+4 Attack and +20 Damage against an adjacent enemy with a higher point cost)
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Post by darthgrievous on Jan 4, 2010 20:12:08 GMT -5
Hmm that might work but I just hate that darn name Bravado
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Post by Roque Saber on Jan 4, 2010 20:48:23 GMT -5
Bravado is an SA on the new Togorian Soldier from DT, so we can't change it. Bravado is interesting, but that might give the Vong too/ much of a punch. As you said, they have enough damage boosters (shapers, scarification, momentum, poison) so I don't think they need an additional +20 against big guns. Jedi Hunters would be...frightening...
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Post by gwek on Jan 4, 2010 20:51:49 GMT -5
Indeed they would. I think Bravado might make the Vong--dare I say it--competitive? Seriously, though, just throwing out some options. I wonder if we could do "Bravado +10" (like Cunning +10/+20).
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Post by Dendrite on Jan 4, 2010 21:12:54 GMT -5
We could just eliminate the damage boost and go
Vong gain +4 attack against characters with a higher point cost
Bravado +10 also works
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Post by Roque Saber on Jan 4, 2010 22:12:43 GMT -5
I think Bloodthristy fits their character better than Bravado, personally. (kudos on using a new ability, though!)
So the CE that I'm thinking of looks like:
Yuuzhan Vong followers/allies (within 6?) get +4 attack against wounded enemies and gain Bloodthirsty.
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Post by Dendrite on Jan 4, 2010 22:27:24 GMT -5
So the CE that I'm thinking of looks like: Yuuzhan Vong followers/allies (within 6?) get +4 attack against wounded enemies and gain Bloodthirsty. I kinda like that...especially the Kit Fisto part. Perhaps Extra Attack may even be in order instead of Bloodthirsty?
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Post by Roque Saber on Jan 4, 2010 23:53:00 GMT -5
Extra could get abusive with the more playable Vong pieces (JH and Ossus) With all the damage bonuses they can get, 4 attacks would just be overkill. Plus, Bloodthirsty, is very flavorful.
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