Darth Revan, Dark Lord

[Jm419]

Another Fall of the Republic figure, I originally pulled this one out of the database before the site crash. I've been meaning to update this figure for a while, and Vader has changed for the better in Imperial Stat Creation, so I figure that we could do the same here. Revan's FP's and CE have always bothered me, and he seems very average. The purpose of this Revan is combat: both close and ranged, but with a decent Commander Effect, on par with, say, Krayt, but different. Nothing game changing, but a desirable CE. I do not want him to be a Force Battery, but I want him to be a powerful combatant all the same, with a few "hook" Force Powers. So, what do we think here?
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Darth Revan, Dark Lord
Cost: 72
Hit Points: 140
Defense: 23
Attack: +15
Damage: 20

Special Abilities:
Unique
Melee Attack
Triple Attack: (This character may make up to three attacks if he doesn't move this turn)
Sith Armor: (+2 defense against adjacent enemies)
Expert Tactician: (If this character has a line of sight on an enemy at the beginning of a round, this character earns Master Tactician [You automatically choose who goes first except on an initiative roll of 1])

Force Powers:
Force 3
Force Renewal 1: (This character gains Force 1 every time he activates)
Master of the Force 2: (This character may spend Force Points up to two times per round)
Lightsaber Riposte: (Force 1: When hit by a melee attack, this character can make an immediate attack against that character)
Force Leap: (Force 1: This turn, this character can move through enemy characters without provoking attacks of opportunity)
Lightsaber Assault: (Force 1: replaces attacks; Make 2 attacks)
Lightsaber Block: (Force 1: When hit by a melee attack, this character takes no damage with a save of 11.)
Lightning Storm 40: (Force 4: replaces attacks; range 6; 40 Damage to target and all characters within 3 squares of the target, save 11 for 20 Damage.)

Commander Effect:
Allied Non-Unique followers gain +3 Defense and Accurate Shot.
Allied characters with Force Ratings start with +1 Force.

[bountyhunter9]

This looks pretty good, Jm. As it is now, though, I think that Lightning Storm 40 is too powerful: 40 damage to multiple enemies with no save. I would suggest a save is added in to reduce the damage to 20, and make it replace turn, that way it's not so overpowering. Other than that I think he looks good.

[Jm419]

Yeah, that's okay. What can we do to the CE?

[bountyhunter9]

Why, do you think it's too powerful? Could change the first part to have a 6 square range.

[Jm419]

No, I just don't think it's that interesting.

[Roque Saber]

Sith Armor seems weak. Dark Armor at least. Or Force Imbued Armor, to keep him protected from sabers. Also, Expert Tactition always seemed a bit too Master Tactition-y for me, I mean really, he's a melee beatstick, he's gonna have LOS to an enemy most of the game. Why not just a bonus to the init roll. We could make it a variable.

e.g Expert Tactition +6 (Add +6 to all initiative rolls for the purposes of decided who goes first)

It helps, but doesn't give him the supreme advantage that MT does. Also, it doesn't change the number as for as Reserve rolls goes, it only affects the deciding of who goes first.

[bountyhunter9]

I agree with Rouge Saber on Expert Tactician, that is a good idea. As for the CE, I have no idea.

[Jm419]

What about "You may move 1, 2, or 3 characters for your first activation of the round"? And maybe Expert Tactician could be, "All allied characters within 6 squares gain +2 to all attack rolls." That might be too powerful, but Idk.

If not, then that +6 would be okay, I think. Overpowered maybe, probably something more like +4.

[Roque Saber]

Thats not really what I meant. Master Tactition (for the scenario cards) says it essentially adds +20 to all init rolls (which in a sense it does). Therefore, Expert Tactition would be like it, but not +20, which is why I threw out an example of +6. It could be any number, it's just a smaller version of MT. Does that make sense?

[Jm419]

Yes. It does. And I may in fact choose to go with that.

What do you think of my ideas? Plausible? Too game changing?

[Roque Saber]

If anything, the "move 1, 2, or 3" should be a CE. In fact, the Lost Twenty version of Revan had a CE that allowed you to activate 1, 2, or 3 chars. So maybe not that exactly, but its not outside the realm of possibility.

[Jm419]

Oh. Well, maybe both could switch? That is, Expert Tactician could be the attack bonus? And perhaps we could make it 0, 1, 2, or 3. Play the whole field.

[Jm419]

Darth Revan, Dark Lord
Cost: 74
Hit Points: 140
Defense: 23
Attack: +15
Damage: 20

Special Abilities:
Unique
Melee Attack
Triple Attack: (This character may make up to three attacks if he doesn't move this turn)
Sith Armor: (+4 defense against adjacent enemies)
Battle Tactics: (You may move 0, 1, 2, or 3 figures for your first activation of each round)

Force Powers:
Force 3
Force Renewal 1: (This character gains Force 1 every time he activates)
Master of the Force 2: (This character may spend Force Points up to two times per round)
Lightsaber Riposte: (Force 1: When hit by a melee attack, this character can make an immediate attack against that character)
Force Leap: (Force 1: This turn, this character can move through enemy characters without provoking attacks of opportunity)
Lightsaber Assault: (Force 1: replaces attacks; Make 2 attacks)
Lightsaber Block: (Force 1: When hit by a melee attack, this character takes no damage with a save of 11.)
Lightning Storm 40: (Force 4: replaces attacks; range 6; 40 Damage to target and all characters within 3 squares of the target, save 11 for 20 Damage.)

Commander Effect:
If they start their turn within six squares of this character, allied characters may move up to sixteen squares without attacking, or eight squares and attack.

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Better?

[Roque Saber]

Well you see, Expert Tactition just sounds so similar to Master Tactition that when you make it completely different, it just seems a little odd.

[bountyhunter9]

Yeah, I don't know about this Expert Tactician. It seems like a very good idea, but I think the name should be changed if we keep it.

Also, I see that you upgraded Sith Armor. I could be wrong, but isn't it the same as Duelist now?