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Post by Roque Saber on Dec 14, 2009 14:01:24 GMT -5
That works and looks good.
Chief Chirpa - 18 pts
HP: 40 DEF: 16 ATT: 4 DA: 10
-Unique Ewok -Rapport (Ewoks cost 1 less when in the same squad as this character) -Melee Attack -Stealth -Stable Footing
CE: Allied Ewoks gain Swarm +4 and Flurry Attack
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Post by bountyhunter9 on Dec 14, 2009 14:18:36 GMT -5
Cool. Only problem now is an IG Lancer coming in and taking out the entire Ewok horde in one Strafe (though I don't think we could avoid that in any way). He looks good.
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Post by darthgrievous on Dec 14, 2009 20:48:33 GMT -5
Agree I think Chirpa is done.
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Post by gwek on Dec 14, 2009 21:20:20 GMT -5
One possible suggestion: consider swapping Stable Footing for Pathfinder. Thus, Chirpa would not gain the advantage himself, but could "point out paths" to those around him (supports his leadership role).
Other that that possible swap, I think he's tentatively done.
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Post by darthgrievous on Dec 14, 2009 21:31:18 GMT -5
Mini yet?
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Post by darthgrievous on Dec 14, 2009 21:35:19 GMT -5
agree on pathfinder instead of stable footing.
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Post by Roque Saber on Dec 15, 2009 1:48:43 GMT -5
Alrighty then! 1 down, 19 to go!
Chief Chirpa - Fringe Cost: 18 HP: 40 Def: 16 Att: 4 Dmg: 10
Unique, Ewok Rapport (Ewoks cost 1 less when in the same squad as this character) Melee Attack Stealth Pathfinder
CE: Allied Ewoks gain Swarm +4 and Flurry Attack
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Post by gwek on Jun 2, 2010 20:35:17 GMT -5
So this is the first piece we approved, waaaaay back on December 15, after less than a week of discussion. I think he was also a record, with only 2 pages of discussion.
So... Do we still like him?
I have somewhat mixed feelings. Even writing out the CE abilities, I think he should fit nicely on a card, and he currently is pretty text-light (except for the commander effect) because of the abilities he has.
Assuming we decide to keep them, Should he have Swarm +4 and Flurry Attack himself, or just grant them?
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Post by Dendrite on Jun 2, 2010 21:12:46 GMT -5
As a chief, he might be better off without them
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Post by bountyhunter9 on Jun 2, 2010 21:13:09 GMT -5
I'm not exactly fluent in the whole Ewok story, but I don't imagine the Chief of the religious little furballs being an exceptional fighter. I think his massive base stats (for an Ewok) are enough that he doesn't need either Swarm or Flurry. I would re-approve him with these stats.
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Post by surfrider56 on Jun 2, 2010 22:42:54 GMT -5
I say lets not reinvent the wheel.
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Post by gwek on Jun 2, 2010 22:55:57 GMT -5
It's not about re-inventing the wheel, so much as looking at these pieces, generally months later, to figure out if, yeah, this IS what we want them to look like.
BH: On your point of Chirpa possibly being too tough--Wookieepedia (always a dubious source) describes him as "one of the strongest Ewok warriors."
That aside, though, I'd like to revisit the commander effect and consider some of the implications.
Swarm +4 might be a little too much. With his Rapport, it's possible to get Ewoks that cost as little as 2 points, which means that the Swarm bonus could easily get to something like +12 or much higher. Perhaps this isn't a terrible thing (it is only on single attack pieces, who have pretty low stats otherwise), but it's something to think about.
As for Flurry Attack... I was actually the one who suggested it, to capitalize on the idea that in an Ewok swarm, there would be a lot of dice rolling, and when a lot of dice are rolled, crits are bound to happen.
On the one hand, I still like the concept, but when you consider what Merumeru does for the Wooks, and what Hett can do for the Tuskens, I wonder if it's really enough.
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Post by bountyhunter9 on Jun 3, 2010 14:51:58 GMT -5
Ok, if Chripa is one of the strongest Ewoks, I wouldn't be against him having Swarm. Probably not Flurry, though, as he already has a lot of abilities for his point cost (although most are short).
Hmm. I see your point on Flurry. I'm not particularly attached to it, I could see something like a small defense boost or something, but he doesn't really need to offer another SA or boost. A 2 point charater that can actually attack, and quite effectively with Swarm +4, might be enough.
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Post by gwek on Jun 3, 2010 19:16:46 GMT -5
So are you saying that we give Chirpa Swarm +4 and also make the CE JUST Swarm +4? I'd be potentially okay with that.
Another option would be a Synergy like the Antarian Ranger has (but for, y'know, Ewoks). This would give a single large bump to Attack (and possibly defense?) that would stack with Swarm and with other bonuses.
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Post by bountyhunter9 on Jun 3, 2010 20:21:39 GMT -5
Yeah, that's basically what I meant.
Hmm. Personally, I prefer the Swarm angle, because it encourages playing large amounts of Ewoks to actually base and preferably surround enemies, rather than only needing one Ewok within 6 to provide a big bonus.
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