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Post by bountyhunter9 on Nov 5, 2009 19:52:54 GMT -5
Here is the complete list of New Republic minis and their accompanying stats from my new custom set, The Living Force. Feel free to comment on anything you like or dislike, and bring to attention an incomplete or inaccurate ability description, or something that needs a rename, etc.
1. Luke Skywalker, Will of the Force
1. Luke Skywalker, Will of the Force
Cost: 81 Hit Points: 150 Defense: 23 Attack: +12 Damage: 20
Special Abilities: Unique Melee Attack Twin Attack Impulsive Reprisal (If a Unique allied character is defeated, for the remainder of the skirmish this character has +4 attack and +10 damage) Mettle Parry
Force Powers: Force 3 Force Renewal 3 Master of the Force 3 Lightsaber Deflect Force Defense Will of the Force (Force 5, replaces turn: Usable only when all allies have been defeated; For the rest of the skirmish, this character gains +20 damage and damage from this character's attacks cannot be prevented or redirected)
Commander Effect: Allies with a Force rating within 6 squares gain Force Renewal 1. Adjacent allies with a Force rating gain Master of the Force 2.
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Post by Jm419 on Dec 20, 2009 12:28:57 GMT -5
FR3? Wow. Even Loda only had FR3, and that was both Yoda and Luke. WotF is interesting, like a combination of Overwhelming Force, Impulsive Savage and Avoid Defeat. Very interesting. That CE is weird, though.
This looks a lot like a more playable version of GMLS.
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Post by bountyhunter9 on Dec 21, 2009 0:09:53 GMT -5
Yeah. I've changed this character a lot, at first I had him costing 107 with 100 HP but he had Unleash the Force 60 (with FR3) which is crazy broken, then I dropped all his attack capabilities, and finally got here.
He turned out okay, and can be deadly when Will of the Force kicks in, and he has huge Force reserves.
How would you suggest changing the CE? I find it weird too...
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Post by Jm419 on Dec 21, 2009 16:24:13 GMT -5
He's almost too powerful. Make him a Force Battery, or something, with low combat capabilities. I'd also say he has too many FP's - three or four maximum.
The CE is really just strange. Either make it a save or find a new concept altogether, it's too self-destroying.
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Post by bountyhunter9 on Dec 21, 2009 19:42:40 GMT -5
Updated. Lmk what you think.
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Post by Jm419 on Dec 22, 2009 12:43:25 GMT -5
That's significantly better. Though why does he have Evade, instead of LD, or even Lightsaber Defense?
Oh, and his starting Force is probably too high. Sort of nitpicky, considering he has FR3.
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Post by bountyhunter9 on Dec 22, 2009 17:51:10 GMT -5
Made one last change. Upped cost to 88, swapped Evade for LS Deflect, dropped Champion of the Force for Parry, and changed the CE to one similar to GMLS's. Thoughts?
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Post by Jm419 on Dec 23, 2009 0:35:22 GMT -5
Mettle + MotF 3 = GOWK 2.0. Don't we want to avoid that particular combo? And I thought Mettle was a Force Power? Or am I thinking of something else? It's late, give me some slack. I liked CotF, but Parry works well too. Simpler, anyway. The CE looks good, if incredibly powerful in an already burgeoning faction. HP could probably be higher too, for that cost.
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Post by bountyhunter9 on Dec 23, 2009 12:34:17 GMT -5
Okay, I made some changes:
+20 HP -2 attack -Force Heal 40
Now he relies on his Force points to hit anything of a decent cost, and to provide him with adequate defense. Ha may be GOWK 2.0, but at least he actually has to spend a Force point to defend against nonmelee, and he cost 33 more points and has a lesser CE. I he still worth 88 points? Or should I drop him by 10? For some reason 78 seems better with his current version.
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Post by Jm419 on Dec 23, 2009 13:15:41 GMT -5
Minus the Force Heal, he's much more acceptable. 78 is more in line, you're correct there.
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Post by bountyhunter9 on Dec 23, 2009 17:34:48 GMT -5
Okay, I'll set the cost at 78. Any other thoughts, any at all?
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Post by Jm419 on Dec 24, 2009 20:07:14 GMT -5
I still think FR3 is a bit much.
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Post by bountyhunter9 on Dec 25, 2009 12:07:43 GMT -5
It may be, but I based the whole piece around his Force points. FR 2 would be too little, unless I make some more major revisions. With FR3 and his reliance on Force points, it makes him more a "Will of the Force" character. I'm going to bump the cost back up a bit, to 81.
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Post by Jm419 on Dec 25, 2009 12:45:42 GMT -5
Okay, that's fair. Unless you're still concerned here, I'd say we're done.
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Post by bountyhunter9 on Dec 25, 2009 23:39:44 GMT -5
I have no concerns as of now, but I might come back later and modify the CE, if I can think of a better one.
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