Mandalorian

[bountyhunter9]

Here is the complete list of Mandalorian minis and their accompanying stats from my new custom set, The Living Force. Feel free to comment on anything you like or dislike, and bring to attention an incomplete or inaccurate ability description, or something that needs a rename, etc.

1. Kex, Mandalorian Quartermaster
2. Mandalore the Ultimate on Basilisk War Droid
3. Mandalore the Indomitable on Basilisk War Droid
4. Mandalore the Ultimate, War Hero
5. Mandalorian Sharpshooter
6. Mandalorian Shock Trooper
7. Ram Zerimar

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1. Kex, Mandalorian Quatermaster

Cost: 27
Hit Points: 80
Defense: 19
Attack: +9
Damage: 20

Special Abilities:
Unique
Melee Attack
Evade
Twin Attack

Commander Effect:
Mandalorian followers within 6 squares gain +10 damage against adjacent enemies.

"The only advice I'll give you when you're in the jungle, shoot anything that moves. Then shoot the things that don't move, just to be sure."

2. Mandalore the Ultimate on Basilisk War Droid

Cost: 74
Hit Points: 150
Defense: 19
Attack: +12
Damage: 30

Special Abilities:
Unique
Flight
Mounted Weapon
Strafe Attack
Twin Attack
Charging Fire
Speed 12

Commander Effect:
Followers whose name contains Basilisk War Droid gain Twin Attack.

3. Mandalore the Indomitable on Basilisk War Droid

Cost: 71
Hit Points: 130
Defense: 19
Attack: +11
Damage: 30

Special Abilities:
Unique
Flight
Mounted Weapon
Strafe Attack
Momentum
Evade
Rapport (Characters whose name contains Basilisk War Droid cost 10 less when in the same squad as this character)
Speed 10

Commander Effect:
Followers whose name contains Basilsk War Droid gain Momentum.

4. Mandalore the Ultimate, War Hero

Cost: 62
Hit Points: 130
Defense: 19
Attack: +13
Damage: 30

Special Abilities:
Unique
Advantageous Attack
Charging Fire
Mandalorian Armor (This character gains +2 defense against attacks from nonadjacent enemies)
Mobile Attack
Rapport (Characters from the Mandalorian faction cost 1 less to include in a squad with this character)
Twin Attack

Commander Effect:
Mandalorian allies gain Advantageous Attack.

"Let them burn."

5. Mandalorian Sharpshooter

Cost: 16
Hit Points: 30
Defense: 15
Attack: +8
Damage: 20

Special Abilities:
Accurate Shot
Cunning Attack
Long Rifle (+10 damage against enemies farther than 12 squares away)Sniper


6. Mandalorian Shock Trooper

Cost: 19
Hit Points: 50
Defense: 18
Attack: +7
Damage: 30

Special Abilities:
Beskar'gam (Whenever this character takes damage from an attack, reduce the damage dealt by 10 with a save of 11)
Charging Fire
Shock Trooper Armor (+4 defense against attacks from non-adjacent enemies)


7. Ram Zerimar

Cost: 27
Hit Points: 50
Defense: 20
Attack: +7
Damage: 20

Special Abilities:
Unique
Accurate Shot
Cunning Attack
Deadly Shot (Replaces turn: Make one attack at +6 attack and +20 damage against a nonadjacent enemy)
Sniper
Stealth
Wall Climber

Commander Effect:
Non-Unique Mandalorian followers within 6 squares with Cunning Attack gain Cunning Attack +20.

[Jm419]

These are great, BH. The Mandos have always been my favorites, and they're awesome in this faction.

That flavor text on Kex is awesome. Very Mando'a of him.

Though I've seen both the MtU and MtI on Basilisks before, they really do look good. They're fantastic, because they mirror their unmounted counterparts, which is a very, very nice dynamic.

MtU, WH should have Charging Fire, and should cost in the high 40s, low to mid 50s.

If that Long Barrel is borrowed from my VwH and LaD, the name of the ability is Long Rifle not Long Barrel. Lol.

You should look at the Mandalorian Crusader, in the database and FotR. That might have some neat doodads for your Shocktrooper - who's good for his cost, if I'm still mildly confused about the Dark Armor.

Ram Zerimar should cost about 32, 34. He's the ultimate sniper.

[bountyhunter9]

Thanks. I like the Mandos too, but they're really hard to make customs for. I like the way they turned out here.

Very. I knew exactly what to do once I read that flavour text off the Wook. Fits the Mandos very well.

Yeah. They're super-high-up in the cost department, but provide huge bonuses to fellow Basilisks and are the bane of swarm squads in themselves.

Does Charging Fire work with Mobile Attack? I think it does, but for some reason I always forget. I'll add it in, and set the cost at 52.

Woops. I'll change that.

I found that the Crusader was a very good piece at what it did - hunker down and slash away while becoming very hard to kill in melee. I envisioned the Shock Troopers as those leading the Mando invasions - those that wore the armor with the defense bonus of 13 in KotOR and KotOR II. Thus the improved Mando armor and Dark Armor. Though I'm going to change Dark Armor in favour of Beskar'gam (is that how you spell it?), with a new definition.

Yeah, he has a very low attack, but supe him up with Careful Shot +6 (!!!) and Cunning Attack and he's shooting at +17. I'll set him at 32.

[Jm419]

Yeah, I'd say they look very close to finished, with only a few cosmetic things here and there.

Indeed it does.

The Basilisks really need help. I tried to help them out with the Basilisk Mk II in FotR, but these take it to the next level. And of course, I always like things that chew up swarm squads.

Charging Fire would replace Mobile Attack, I believe. Unless it just means that the character can move 12 squares and attack anywhere along those 12 squares, which would make for a very strong character.

Lol.

It was meant to be the backbone of slow moving squads - it defended things like E-Webs and such. I misunderstood the purpose of your Shock Trooper, I thought it was supposed to be the Crusader (which is one of my all time favorite pieces on these boards). Your spelling of Beskar'gam is correct.

Yeah, he can get really scary, but can be taken out relatively quickly.

[bountyhunter9]

Yeah. The Basilisks should be better than the Seps' IG Lancers, and one of the Mandalores here can make them deadly.

I'm not sure on the ruling. I think you would have to choose between using CF or Mobile, or at least that's my understanding.

Yeah, I like the Crusader too, it's perfect for what it does. Was the Mando armor made of the Beskar'gam stuff in the time of the Mandalorian Wars? If not, I may have to change things up a bit.

[Jm419]

Yes. My thoughts exactly. Uh, all three Mandalores should have Unique: (Counts as Mandalore) or something like that. My Mandalore Ability from FotR and LaD would accomplish much the same thing.

Would you ever use Mobile over CF, though?

Yes, they used Mandalorian Iron to make their armor. The Iron on Mandalore was just purer than other iron elsewhere in the galaxy, but some of it was also alloyed with cortosis - which granted it it's unique properties.

[bountyhunter9]

Why would they need that? While it would fit, WotC hasn't given their Mandalores that description. It's too limiting, IMO. While it may fit, I think it's better if the can be combined. No other factions/character types have anything similar, even if it would fit well (ie the Rule of Two).

The way I see it, you'd use CF to get into the battle or attack an enemy that you have to double-move to get to, and who doesn't pose much of a threat to you. Mobile would be used over CF once you get into the battle, to move in and out of LoS of enemies/in and out of cover.

Okay, that's good. Did they call it Beskar'gam back then?

[Jm419]

It's the same principle as Anakin, Sith Apprentice, I believe. Since there was never an Anakin Skywalker at the same time as a Darth Vader, Anakin's Unique says "Counts as Darth Vader." The same would apply to the Mandalores - they never worked in concert canonically, so I don't believe they could work together in a squad.

However, there's no clause on the Dark Lords, for instance, Revan and Holosid can pair up, or Revan and Bane. I don't know.

Oh, I suppose. Strategy...

I don't really know, we don't have any true canon sources for that. But, it's mando'a, so I'd imagine that they called it that. Even if they didn't, they had the technology, so the ability would fit, even if the name would be questionable.

[bountyhunter9]

That makes sense, but Anakin and Vader are the same person, while the Mandalores are different people. There are many combinations that don't make sense canonically - mainly within the Mandalorian, Sith, Empire, and New Republic factions. Kol Skywalker, who lived more than 100 years after Wedge Antilles, can still be in a squad with him. The same goes for Emperor Palpainte and Emperor Roan Fel being in the same squad, or Darth Talon teaming up with Exar Kun in a Sith squad, or the Mandalores working together in a Mando squad.

Okay, sounds good. Does the Shock Trooper look good now? Have I costed him too highly?

[Jm419]

Fair enough. I suppose it's more WotC-ish to do it this way.

Yes you have. 19 would be more in line.

[bountyhunter9]

Lol. For better or worse.

I agree. I'll make the changes.

[Jm419]

These look really good, BH. Anything else here you want me to look at?

[bountyhunter9]

Thanks. I don't think there is. We're actually going to finish a faction on the first page! Lol.

[Jm419]

Lol. True.

[bountyhunter9]

Lol.