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Post by Sharrakor on Jun 19, 2009 18:08:06 GMT -5
The list of Imperial characters from Return of the Jedi is as follows. Each character comes with its (negotiable) point cost, set position, faction, rarity, size and stats.
Bakuran Officer (14) 21/60 Imperial Uncommon Medium
HP: 30 Def: 14 Atk: +5 Dmg: 10
Special Abilities Affinity (New Republic)
Commander Effect Non-Unique followers within 6 squares gain Double Attack (On its turn, this character can make 1 extra attack instead of moving).
Bakuran Stormtrooper (5) 22/60 Imperial Common Medium
HP: 10 Def: 16 Atk: +5 Dmg: 10
Special Abilities Affinity (New Republic)
Bunker Trooper (9) 23/60 Imperial Common Medium
HP: 20 Def: 14 Atk: +4 Dmg: 10
Special Abilities Advantageous Cover Ambush
Darth Vader, Servant of the Emperor (72) 24/60 Imperial Very Rare Medium
HP: 140 Def: 23 Atk: +16 Dmg: 20
Special Abilities Unique Melee Attack; Triple Attack Dark Armor Rapport (Costs one less when in a squad which contains a character whose name contains Palpatine)
Force Powers Force 1; Force Renewal 1 Lightsaber Throw Lightsaber Assault Force Sense Lightsaber Block Lightsaber Riposte Master of the Force 2
Elite Royal Guard (16) 25/60 Imperial Uncommon Medium
HP: 60 Def: 18 Atk: +8 Dmg: 20
Special Abilities Melee Attack Melee Reach 2 Parry Jolt Emperor’s Bodyguard
Elite Scout Trooper (13) 26/60 Imperial Uncommon Medium
HP: 40 Def: 17 Atk: +7 Dmg: 10
Special Abilities Stealth Spotter +20 Stable Footing Sniper
Emperor Palpatine of the Death Star II (43) 27/60 Imperial Very Rare Medium
HP: 130 Def: 20 Atk: +0 Dmg: 0
Special Abilities Unique It's A Trap! Betrayal Speed 5
Force Powers Force 1; Force Renewal 2 Force Storm Force Lightning 2 Force Lightning 4 Force Lightning 5
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Post by Jm419 on Jun 21, 2009 14:54:06 GMT -5
I like your Vader, he's very balanced. Palpatine is cool too, but why does he have Speed 5? I thought WotC typically did Speeds in even numbers.
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Post by Sharrakor on Jun 21, 2009 15:49:22 GMT -5
Yeah, they usually do. Except for one time: the Hoth Trooper with Repeating Blaster Cannon, which has Speed 1.
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Post by Jm419 on Jun 21, 2009 16:09:57 GMT -5
Well, yes, that's true. Does he have Speed 5 because he's old?
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Post by Sharrakor on Jun 21, 2009 16:12:55 GMT -5
Yeah, mostly.
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Post by bountyhunter9 on Jun 21, 2009 17:22:52 GMT -5
That's interesting. I never would have thought of that.
I really like Vader, but I think he is overcosted. Is he really better than Darth Vader, Legacy of the Force and Lord Vader?
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Post by Jm419 on Jun 21, 2009 20:04:46 GMT -5
He has a lot of FP's.
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Post by Sharrakor on Jun 22, 2009 1:17:34 GMT -5
The reasons for me costing him highly are: - ...that he has the highest stats of all Vaders
- ...Triple Attack
- ...Dark Armor
- ...synergy with Force Battery Palps
- ...a plethora of Force abilities paired with Renewal and MotF
- ...is a follower
What cost would you suggest anyway?
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Post by bountyhunter9 on Jun 22, 2009 8:09:57 GMT -5
Okay, but let's compare him to Darth Vader, Legacy of the Force:
- base stats: no change - abilities: LotF gains Pilot and Djem So Style, loses Rapport - Force powers: LotF has Grip 2 and the improved Lightsaber Reflect, giving him some damaging Force powers at range; he has no melee-defensive powers, but has Djem So; this Vader has a few level 1 FPs that aren't as good as simply using Triple Attack most of the time -commander effect: LotF has arguably one of the best commander effects in the game
Sure, this Vader is a follower, but then compare him to Vader, JH, and he doesn't really compare. All three of the mentioned Vaders have great synergy with Palps' Force battery.
I would suggest costing him...eh...high 60s. What do you think of that?
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Post by Sharrakor on Sept 1, 2009 6:33:51 GMT -5
Hmmm, you have a point. I didn't think about LotF. Mind you, this was made before LotF...
But anyway, would 66 work?
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Post by bountyhunter9 on Sept 3, 2009 17:28:52 GMT -5
66 might be a little aggressive, I was thinking more 68. We are talking about a matter of one or two points here, though, so 66 would be fine if that's what you want.
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