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Post by surfrider56 on Feb 20, 2009 21:33:56 GMT -5
Alderaan Diplomat Cost: 6 HP: 20 Def: 10 Atk: 0 Dmg: 0
S.A. Diplomat Recon
Flavor Text
"Having lost her homeworld, this diplomat secretly spies for the Rebel Alliance and reports enemy movements in hopes of avenging the death of all she knew."
Just an idea, sort of what Leia might have been if she wasn't as prominant ....
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Post by maverick on Feb 23, 2009 6:41:11 GMT -5
I like the recon/diplomat combo it's mean, but there's something odd here that I can't put my finger on...
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Post by planeswalker459 on Feb 23, 2009 14:43:36 GMT -5
Up the Defense to 13 and you sir have a fantastic finished mini
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Post by maverick on Feb 23, 2009 17:23:15 GMT -5
agreed
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Post by gwek on Feb 24, 2009 14:35:55 GMT -5
I'm sorry to be the fly in the ointment, but while I do really like the Recon/Diplomat combo, I think it belongs on a unique character.
Currently (and, hey, this could change before all of IE is spoiled!), there are 10 WotC characters with Recon. 8 of them are unique. While there ARE two non-uniques with Recon, neither of them has something as "interesting" as Diplomat in combination.
Diplomat does have it's limits, but I think putting it on a non-unique could be abusive. She can travel with her pet Mouse Droids and for 12 points be virtually untouchable.
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Post by maverick on Feb 24, 2009 15:32:44 GMT -5
is there a unique character that would fit this mold?
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Post by gwek on Feb 24, 2009 15:34:29 GMT -5
First character that came to mind for me is Winter (early in her career).
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Post by planeswalker459 on Feb 24, 2009 17:18:46 GMT -5
Bail Organa, Aldeeran Diplomat/Senator
that could work too
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Post by surfrider56 on Feb 24, 2009 19:49:30 GMT -5
First character that came to mind for me is Winter (early in her career). I had originally thought that, but I did something else with her. I also deliberatley made her weak so she Could be bumped off easy ... but she might get one or two Recon uses in beforehand. Bail Organa, Aldeeran Diplomat/Senator that could work too I thought about his one too, but he suddenly went from a shooter to a Diplomat? Maybe as an old man that could fly ... how old was he supposed to be when Alderaan blew?
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Post by gwek on Feb 24, 2009 20:47:14 GMT -5
I think Bail or Winter could work. I saw the other version and think she needs a bit of a revamp. Also, there's no reason there can't be a Rebel (more passive) and New Republic (slightly better combat skills) version.
As for Bail going from a shooter to a diplomat... He WAS a senator and a prince! And look at Yoda's progression from Republic version to Rebel version.
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Post by planeswalker459 on Feb 25, 2009 0:24:46 GMT -5
Bail would have been between 60-70 I think when Alderaan Blew...cant check wookiepedia, but I beleive he was around 30 when Ep 1 starts, so he would ahve been mid 40's when Ep 3 ended, and add 19 years to that when Alderaan blew, and he is fairly old.
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Post by gwek on Feb 25, 2009 1:24:24 GMT -5
My math might be slightly off, but I believe Bail is about a decade older than Obi-wan, who is 56 (that's a HARD 56!) in ANH. That puts him in his mid-60s. In our society, that's young enough to be a functioning, contributing member, so it sould be okay in Star Wars. Qui-Gon is 60 in TPM. Dooku is about 100 years old when he dies. Yoda... Well, you get the point.
The Star Wars radio drama (and other EU sources) show Organa as an active member/founder of the Rebellion up into the day he dies. Doens't need Double Attack or Mighty Swing, but the abilities in question certainly seem within the scope of his ability.
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Post by surfrider56 on Feb 28, 2009 1:17:27 GMT -5
Well, I certainly see where this piece could be a Bail, but I simply tried to make up a member of the Alderaanian Diplomatic core, an ambassador or someone, who may have been offworld when the planet got wasted and wanted revenge;
Bail died with the planet so it couldn't have been him in the technical sense. He could have this, with the flavor changed to reflect his feelings reflecting how he views the Empire as a retired Senator (assuming its Leia taking his place.) Again, just trying to fill a space up with an interesting generic.
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Post by gwek on Feb 28, 2009 10:37:16 GMT -5
For the record, this is LITERALLTY Winter's role during the Rebel era, by the way!
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Post by surfrider56 on Feb 28, 2009 11:41:19 GMT -5
So, basically, looking at the Alderaan Diplomat and Winter stats, if I made this one "Winter, Alderaan Diplomat" and the other stats NR Winter it would fly as is? The Rebel Winter is a little wimpy ... would have up her D slightly and give her a +7 or so Attk I would think. Opinions?
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