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Post by generalgrevious on Dec 13, 2009 18:30:42 GMT -5
Saba Sebatyne
Cost: 49 Hitpoints: 130 Defense: 21 Attack: +13 Damage: 20
Special Abilities: Unique Melee Attack Triple Attack Lightsaber Duelist
Force 1 Force Renewal 1 Force Sense Lightsaber Assault Lightsaber Block Force Valor
She seemed to have about the same amount of skills as Kyle did but only defensive and some what more of a commander. I wanted you to have the chance to have her be a commander or not so I added Valor.
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Post by Roque Saber on Dec 13, 2009 23:15:08 GMT -5
The "Jedi Master" CE is (no offense intended) quite useless. If you wanted something with Leia, just give her Synenergy. Besides that, she looks pretty good. Attack is on the low side, but that can be upped easily. I really like Valor on her, too. I really think LS Defense is being used too much. Ever since it came out, it's been the force power to have on....pretty much everyone. I would go with either block, deflect, or riposte.
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Post by Dendrite on Dec 15, 2009 16:47:01 GMT -5
Perhaps Force Recovery 20? She did show talent with the Healing Trance thing...
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Post by Roque Saber on Dec 15, 2009 17:39:21 GMT -5
Recovery is useless, IMO. Might as well give her Force Heal if we're going that route (but personally, I don't think she needs it. NR already has a great healer in Cade)
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Post by gwek on Dec 15, 2009 20:42:52 GMT -5
I think we need a hook for the character. The original posted idea isn't bad--and is pretty powerful--but it's also pretty generic. What is it that makes Saba UNIQUE? What makes her stand out among the many Jedi Masters of the New Republic? Quick--someone head over to Wookieepedia!
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Post by Dendrite on Dec 18, 2009 0:52:31 GMT -5
A few facts that could prove useful: -Like to make things up as she went (Mettle) -Master of Telekenesis (Levitation/Force Push) -Athletically mobile (Master Speed) -Good at Force Healing Trance, Force Valor, and Force Meld (something that could be written similar to or granting a Squad ___ ability) -As a Barabel, a natural hunter/tracker (Its a Trap/Resilient)
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Post by saber1 on Dec 18, 2009 11:30:35 GMT -5
Before getting too involved we need to pin down the level of the Saba we wish to make. Leader of the Wild Knights who trained several pilot/Jedi or Jedi Master with formal training in Luke's Academy? Once this has been answered, it will be easier to narrow down her abilities and stats. For example, below are two Saba's I've come up with. One is reflecting her younger, piloting days. The other is her mentoring of Leia Solo days. In either case, she was described as physically strong and resilient, ferocious in combat, skilled in tracking/hunting, agile and powerful in the force. Dendrite is correct in her abilities in the above post. (props to you, D)
Saba Sebatyne Cost: 48 Faction: New Republic Hit Points: 130 Defense: 21 Attack: 12 Damage: 20
Special Abilities Unique, Melee Attack, Double Attack Cunning (+4 Attack and +10 Damage against an enemy who has not activated this round) Greater Mobile Attack (Can move both before and after attacking. This character can make extra attacks even if it moves this turn, but it must make them all before resuming movement) Intuition (Once per round, after initiative is determined, this character can immediately move up to its speed before any other character activates) Pilot
Force Powers Force 2, Force Renewal 1 Force Push 2 (Force 2, replaces attacks: range 6; 20 Damage; push back target 2 squares if Huge or smaller) Force Valor (Force 2, replaces attacks: For the rest of the skirmish, this character gains the following commander effect: Followers within 6 squares gain +2 Attack and +2 Defense) Lightsaber Block (Force 1: When hit by a melee attack, this character takes no damage with a save of 11)
Saba Sebatyne, Jedi Master Cost: 57 Faction: New Republic Hit Points: 140 Defense: 22 Attack: 13 Damage: 20
Special Abilities Unique, Melee Attack, Double Attack Cunning Attack +20 (+4 Attack and +20 Damage against an enemy who has not activated this round) Intuition (Once per round, after initiative is determined, this character can immediately move up to its speed before any other character activates) Rend +10 (If both its attacks hit the same adjacent character, this character’s second attack gets +10 Damage)
Force Powers Force 2, Force Renewal 1, Master of the Force 2 Force Leap (Force 1, this character can move through enemy characters without provoking attacks of opportunity) Force Push 4 (Force 4, replaces attacks: sight; 40 Damage; push back target 4 squares if Huge or smaller) Force Sense (Force 1, usable only on this character’s turn: Enemy characters lose Stealth for the rest of the round) Lightsaber Defense (Force 1: Whenever this character is hit by an attack, this character takes no damage with a save of 11)
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Post by Dendrite on Dec 21, 2009 14:25:22 GMT -5
There's something about the former that I like better. Rend was a good idea.
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Post by gwek on Dec 22, 2009 13:58:03 GMT -5
Bump.
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Post by gwek on Jan 4, 2010 14:34:30 GMT -5
Bump.
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Post by Roque Saber on Jan 4, 2010 23:56:51 GMT -5
A few facts that could prove useful: -Like to make things up as she went (Mettle) -Master of Telekenesis (Levitation/Force Push) -Athletically mobile (Master Speed) -Good at Force Healing Trance, Force Valor, and Force Meld (something that could be written similar to or granting a Squad ___ ability) -As a Barabel, a natural hunter/tracker (Its a Trap/Resilient) Excellent! Let's see, we've got a good assortment of abilities flying around. Levitation and Resilient are rare abilities that would be cool to see on Seba. Heal or Valor both seem to be popular choices, so we could probably take one (or both) of them. Mettle and Master Speed are also interesting. They don't seem quite no vital, but they definitely keep our options open. Thoughts?
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Post by gwek on Jan 5, 2010 10:12:38 GMT -5
I think we need to look at the other pieces in the faction as a backdrop. Based on Leia Skywalker, I'd say we want to avoid Mettle (due to Leia's commander effect) and It's a Trap/Force Sense. (Note also the CorSec has, and provides, It's a Trap).
Similarly, I would suggest Force Valor over Heal, because of Cade.
I like the idea of her being mobile, but if we're going to go with Rend (and interesting idea for her), I think something like Anticipation, Intuition, or even Ambush works better than Master Speed to give her the option to set up her multiple attacks.
If we want to make her "commander-ish" without actually having a CE, Force Valor is obviously a big step in the right direction. I could also see her having a Synergy for "characters whose name includes Jedi Knight." Right now, that would affect both Leias, as well as the YJK (who can always use a but of an assist, especially with the EJA out there!).
We could go with Levitation, Force Leap, Force Push, or some Lightsaber Abilities to round things out, but I think we need to be careful about diluting her role too much.
I guess I'd see her as a "swing" character who can offer good damage output mixed with some commander/support functions. Maybe something like:
Melee Attack Double Attack Intuition? Ambush? Pilot? Rend Synergy? (if she has Synergy, then maybe Anticipation rather than Intuition)
Force Renewal Force Valor Force Leap (if she has Ambush, I think Force Leap is an interesting angle) Lightsaber Deflect? Defense? Levitation?
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Post by Roque Saber on Jan 5, 2010 19:01:04 GMT -5
Was Seba an accomplished Pilot?
Intuition's a cool idea, though Ambush could work as well (and Zannah already has Surprise Move, which is similar).
Here's a modified version of GWEk's list turned into some full stats.
Seba Sebatyne Cost: 45-50+? HP: 150 Def: 21 Att:14 Dmg:20
Melee Attack Double Attack Ambush Pilot? Rend +10/+20
Force Renewal? Force Valor Force Leap Lightsaber Deflect Levitation
CE?
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Post by Dendrite on Jan 5, 2010 19:16:19 GMT -5
Does she need a CE? I didn't find (in all the time it took to read he Wookieepedia article) that she was a singular leader. Is there anything the NR needs from her?
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Post by Roque Saber on Jan 5, 2010 21:17:11 GMT -5
I wasn't sure about a CE, I think someone had mentioned her having one (or maybe they were referring to Valor)
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