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Demagol
Dec 19, 2009 22:03:08 GMT -5
Post by gwek on Dec 19, 2009 22:03:08 GMT -5
This was the last version I'd posted (still unpriced):
Demagol Cost: 21 Faction: Mandalorians Hit Points: 80 Defense: 17 Attack: 10 Damage: 10
Unique Twin Attack Homicidal Surgery 30 (Replaces turn: touch; deal 30 damage to a living character. An allied character can instead remove 30 damage from itself with a save of 11.) Jedi Hunter (+4 Attack and +10 Damage against enemies with Force ratings) Mobile Attack (Can move both before and after attacking)
Commander Effect: Allies within 6 squares gain Mettle.
I think he's pretty solid as is (basically, an unconvnetional healer with decent combat stats, especially against Force-users).
If we wanted to make additional changes, I could see some of the following:
1) Possibly Cunning+10 or +20 (based on his RPG stats), but in that case, I'd suggest dropping Twin, making him similar to Hondo Ohnaka.
2) Some other sort of damage booster, like Bloodthirsty, or perhaps even the new "Finishing Shot" from DARK TIMES.
Thoughts? (Keep in mind, as a Unique Mando, he's relatively limited in the commander effects that can impact him).
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Demagol
Dec 20, 2009 9:42:35 GMT -5
Post by darthgrievous on Dec 20, 2009 9:42:35 GMT -5
I haven't seen "Finishing Shot" yet so I can't give an opinion on that one, however with him having Jedi Hunter and Mobile Twin I think he's pretty much all set.
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Demagol
Dec 20, 2009 11:24:27 GMT -5
Post by Jm419 on Dec 20, 2009 11:24:27 GMT -5
I think he's done as is, even without the Finishing Shot, whatever that turns out to be.
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Demagol
Dec 20, 2009 13:21:51 GMT -5
Post by gwek on Dec 20, 2009 13:21:51 GMT -5
From the compiled spoilers thread on bloomilk:
We may also want to consider this piece from DARK TIMES:
Ostensibly similar (Twin and Jedi Hunter), although this guy has higher damage, but Melee Attack.
We should probably keep this guy in mind when pricing Demagol.
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Demagol
Dec 21, 2009 0:14:07 GMT -5
Post by Roque Saber on Dec 21, 2009 0:14:07 GMT -5
The new JH wouldn't be a really great piece to pattern him after since he still suffers from Wizo's "glass-cannon" Mando mindset.
The above set of stats looks good, for cost I'm thinking mid-20's since he seems pretty similar to the Mando Commander (with a much less potent CE)
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Demagol
Dec 21, 2009 0:22:44 GMT -5
Post by darthgrievous on Dec 21, 2009 0:22:44 GMT -5
agreed
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Demagol
Dec 21, 2009 1:16:34 GMT -5
Post by gwek on Dec 21, 2009 1:16:34 GMT -5
I wasn't really saying he should be modelled after the MJH (which has melee), but that the piece, and perhaps its cost, should be kept in mind when pricing Demagol. One could argue that his cost should be a little lower with another Jedi Hunter in the faction...
My cost generator puts him at 34, which I think is VERY high, given his relatively low damage output and the fact that he's a unique commander (and therefore subject to very few commander effects himself).
I'd actually say maybe low 20s (22 or 23), which makes him a decent option vs similarly priced pieces (although a unique commander, he brings healing to the table), and keeps his cost low enough to make him viable in some of the unconventional squads we've discussed.
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Demagol
Dec 21, 2009 9:31:05 GMT -5
Post by bountyhunter9 on Dec 21, 2009 9:31:05 GMT -5
I agree, 22, 23 for the cost and I think he's done.
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Demagol
Dec 21, 2009 10:36:31 GMT -5
Post by Dendrite on Dec 21, 2009 10:36:31 GMT -5
Perhaps costed slightly aggressively, just 20?
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Demagol
Dec 21, 2009 10:39:25 GMT -5
Post by darthgrievous on Dec 21, 2009 10:39:25 GMT -5
how about right in the middle good ole' 21
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Demagol
Dec 21, 2009 11:38:07 GMT -5
Post by gwek on Dec 21, 2009 11:38:07 GMT -5
I've tentatively changed the price to 21, awaiting final approval.
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Demagol
Dec 21, 2009 11:51:26 GMT -5
Post by Dendrite on Dec 21, 2009 11:51:26 GMT -5
I know I can't think of anything to change, so I'd say the completion of this guy is quite a victory for us as statters. (Quite an enigma, this guy was)
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Demagol
Dec 21, 2009 13:43:39 GMT -5
Post by Roque Saber on Dec 21, 2009 13:43:39 GMT -5
Yep, looks good.
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Demagol
Dec 21, 2009 16:34:11 GMT -5
Post by bountyhunter9 on Dec 21, 2009 16:34:11 GMT -5
Agreed.
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Demagol
Dec 22, 2009 10:05:51 GMT -5
Post by darthgrievous on Dec 22, 2009 10:05:51 GMT -5
Agreed, lock it down....finally a hard one done....now if can get Vergere or Celeste done we are really cooking.
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