Imperial

[bountyhunter9]

Here is the complete list of Imperial minis and their accompanying stats from my new custom set, Vader's Fist. Feel free to comment on anything you like or dislike, and bring to attention an incomplete or inaccurate ability description, or something that needs a rename, etc.

1. Daine Jir
2. 501st Stormtrooper
3. Darth Vader, Leader of the 501st
4. 501st Scout Trooper
5. 501st Stormtrooper Officer
6. 501st Heavy Trooper
7. 501st Engineer
8. 501st Elite Trooper
9. 501st Dark Trooper
10. Raith Sienar
11. Retired 501st Trooper
12. 501st Grenadier
13. 501st Gunnery Officer
14. 501st Armor Officer
15. Bow, 501st Officer
16. 501st Pilot
17. 501st Marine
18. Stormtrooper Recruitment Officer
19. Emperor Palpatine, Sith Master

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1. Daine Jir

Cost: 11
Hit Points: 30
Defense: 16
Attack: +4
Damage: 10

Special Abilities:
Unique
Defiant (+4 attack and +10 damage against enemy commanders)

Commander Effect:
Trooper followers can move 2 extra squares on their turn as part of their move.

2. 501st Stormtrooper

Cost: 9
Hit Points: 30
Defense: 17
Attack: +6
Damage: 10

Special Abilities:
501st Legion (Your squad may not contain any non-Unique characters without 501st Legion)
Double Attack
Squad Assault

3. Darth Vader, Leader of the 501st

Cost: 59
Hit Points: 140
Defense: 23
Attack: +15
Damage: 20

Special Abilities:
Unique
Melee Attack
Double Attack
Djem So Style Mastery
Dark Armor

Force Powers:
Force 5
Force Grip 1
Lightsaber Precision
Lightsaber Sweep

Commander Effect:
Followers with 501st Legion gain Cunning Attack.

4. 501st Scout Trooper

Cost: 13
Hit Points: 20
Defense: 12
Attack: +8
Damage: 20

Special Abilities:
501st Legion (Your squad may not contain any non-Unique characters without 501st Legion)
Accurate Shot
Advantageous Cover
Wall Climber
Stealth

5. 501st Stormtrooper Officer

Cost: 14
Hit Points: 30
Defense: 18
Attack: +9
Damage: 10

Special Abilities:
501st Legion (Your squad may not contain any non-Unique characters without 501st Legion)
Double Attack

Commander Effect:
Trooper followers within 6 squares with 501st Legion gain Careful Shot +4.

6. 501st Heavy Trooper

Cost: 17
Hit Points: 40
Defense: 15
Attack: +6
Damage: 20

Special Abilities:
501st Legion (Your squad may not contain any non-Unique characters without 501st Legion)
Squad Firepower
Splash 10
Missiles 30
Speed 4
Affinity (This character may be in a Republic squad)

7. 501st Engineer

Cost: 12
Hit Points: 20
Defense: 14
Attack: +5
Damage: 10

Special Abilities:
501st Legion (Your squad may not contain any non-Unique characters without 501st Legion)
Shotgun (+10 damage agaisnt enemies within 6 squares)
Shrapnel (An enemy damaged by this character takes 10 damage the next time it activates; save 11)
Industrial Repair 10
Satchel Charge
Affinity (This character may be in a Republic squad)

8. 501st Elite Trooper

Cost: 21
Hit Points: 50
Defense: 18
Attack: +9
Damage: 20

Special Abilities:
501st Legion (Your squad may not contain any non-Unique characters without 501st Legion)
Double Attack
Accurate Shot
Grenades 10
Persistence (Whenever this character has 20 HP or greater and would be defeated, make a save of 11. On a success, this character has 10 HP instead of being defeated)
Affinity (This character may be in a Republic squad)

9. 501st Dark Trooper

Cost: 14
Hit Points: 20
Defense: 18
Attack: +7
Damage: 20

Special Abilities:
501st Legion (Your squad may not contain any non-Unique characters without 501st Legion)
Splash 20
Jump Pack (Replaces turn: May move up to 18 squares in one direction; this move ignores difficult terrain, enemy characters, low objects, and pits, but this character must end its move in a legal space)

10. Raith Sienar

Cost: 33
Hit Points: 40
Defense: 15
Attack: +3
Damage: 10

Special Abilities:
Unique
Enhanced Vehicle Systems (Allied characters within 6 squares with Mounted Weapon gain +2 attack, +2 defense, and +10 damage)
Self-Repair Upgrade (Allies with Mounted Weapon gain Self-Repair 30 [When this character activates, remove 30 points of damage from it])
Twin Ion Engine Technology (Allies with Flight gain Accelerate)
Rapport (Characters with Mounted Weapon cost 5 points less when included in a squad with this character)

11. Retired 501st Trooper

Cost: 29
Hit Points: 60
Defense: 18
Attack: +9
Damage: 20

Special Abilities:
Unique
501st Legion (Your squad may not contain any non-Unique characters without 501st Legion)
Twin Attack
Accurate Shot
Mobile Attack
Stealth
Avoid Defeat

12. 501st Grenadier

Cost: 11
Hit Points: 20
Defense: 14
Attack: +4
Damage: 10

Special Abilities:
501st Legion (Your squad may not contain any non-Unique characters without 501st Legion)
Mobile Attack (This character can move both before and after attacking)
Thermal Detonator 20 (Replaces attacks: range 6; 20 damage to target and each character adjacent to that target; save 11; push back damaged characters 2 squares)
Affinity (This character may be in a Republic squad)

13. 501st Gunnery Officer

Cost: 18
Hit Points: 40
Defense: 15
Attack: +9
Damage: 20

Special Abilities:
501st Legion (Your squad may not contain any non-Unique characters without 501st Legion)
Accurate Shot
501st Fire Support (Allies with 501st Legion who combine fire with an ally with 501st Legion grant +6 attack instead of +4)

Commander Effect:
Trooper followers with 501st Legion within 6 squares gain Advantageous Attack.

14. 501st Armor Officer

Cost: 22
Hit Points: 40
Defense: 19
Attack: +5
Damage: 10

Special Abilities:
501st Legion (Your squad may not contain any non-Unique characters without 501st Legion)
Evade
501st Armor Upgrade (Allied characters with 501st Legion within 6 squares gain +1 defense)

Commander Effect:
Trooper followers with 501st Legion within 6 squares gain Mobile Attack.

15. Bow, 501st Officer

Cost: 23
Hit Points: 60
Defense: 16
Attack: +10
Damage: 20

Special Abilities:
Unique
501st Legion (Your squad may not contain any non-Unique characters without 501st Legion)
Jedi Hunter

Commander Effect:
At the end of this character's turn, 2 Medium allies with 501st Legion within 6 squares of this character may switch positions.

16. 501st Pilot

Cost: 9
Hit Points: 10
Defense: 15
Attack: +6
Damage: 10

Special Abilities:
501st Legion (Your squad may not contain any non-Unique characters without 501st Legion)
Pilot
Twin Attack
Sniper
Affinity (This character may be in a Republic squad)

17. 501st Marine

Cost: 16
Hit Points: 40
Defense: 17
Attack: +7
Damage: 20

Special Abilities:
501st Legion (Your squad may not contain any non-Unique character without 501st Legion)
Pilot
Missiles 20
Penetration 20
Affinity (This character may be in a Republic squad)

18. Stormtrooper Recruitment Officer

Cost: 32
Hit Points: 40
Defense: 17
Attack: +7
Damage: 20

Special Abilities:
Immediate Stormtrooper Reserves 20 (If you roll exactly 5, 10, 15, or 20 for initiative, you may add up to 20 points of characters named Stormtrooper to your squad, adjacent to this character, immediately before your first activation in the round)

Commander Effect:
At the end of this character's turn, one adjacent ally named Stormtrooper may make an immediate attack at +4 attack and +10 damage.

19. Emperor Palpatine, Sith Master

Cost: 56
Hit Points: 130
Defene: 20
Attack: +15
Damage: 20

Special Abilities:
Unique
Melee Attack
Triple Attack
Vicious Attack

Force Powers:
Force 2
Force Renewal 1
Force Grip 1
Force Flight (Force 1, replaces turn: for the remainder of the skirmish, this character has Flight)
Ground Shock (Force 3, replaces turn: All other characters within 3 squares take 30 damage and are considered activated this round, save 11; push back Huge or smaller characters to 6 squares from this character)
Sith Lightning 30 (Force 2, replaces attacks: range 6; 30 damage to target enemy)

Commander Effect:
Non-unique followers within 6 squares score critical hits on attack rolls of natural 19 or 20 and deal triple damage instead of double on a critical hit.

[bountyhunter9]

There, some of the Imperial characters are up. Tell me what you think.

[Jm419]

AAAH!!! SO MANY PIECES!!!

Btw, your board is out of whack, this thread is at the top of the page, and I don't think it's supposed to be.

Down to business. Daine Jir looks nice. Defiant is a neat ability.

A different take on the 501st Trooper than I had. Interesting.

Vader looks almost WotC ish, and in a good way. Very clean, very in line with other ones.

Scout Trooper looks good.

Careful Shot +4 and Cunning? We're already at +8 Attack, +10 Damage, and we're five figures in. These CE's need distance limits. At least you can force Mas Amedda to run, and cut down on pts.

The Heavy Trooper looks nice.

Why does the Engineer have Pilot? Isn't that what Pilots are for?

At first, Jump Pack looks horribly powerful, but it's actually pretty appropriate. Very nice. Perhaps a 16 square or 18 square jump wouldn't be out of the question because it replaces turn.

Seinar is fascinating, and terrifying.

[bountyhunter9]

Lol. Yeah. And more are on the way once we finish RoT.

Yeah, it is. I just stickied this and then logged off, so I haven't re-aligned it yet. I'll do that now.

Yeah. Daine was actually the first piece I made for the set, even before I made the first piece for RoT. At first I was just going to make a 501st Trooper and a couple commanders, but then I decided to make a whole other set.

Yeah, he was designed as a DV, Scourge of the Jedi and DV, IC hybrid, but I dropped the Riposte/Djem So combo in favour of Djem So Mastery and LS Precision, an interesting difference.

Yeah, at first I was going to design a 501st Sniper with all the sniper abilities I could think of, but that was way too much. So I split it up between the Clone Sniper (which has the obvious sniper abilities), and the Scout Trooper (less obvious).

Oh, good point on the CEs. The Stormie Officer is meant to have a range of 6, I forgot to add that in. Should we make Vader's 6 as well? I made him as the Imperial counterpart to General Skywalker, who doesn't have a range, but I'm fine if he has one.

The Engineer has Pilot because it's modeled after the Battlefront character - and Jagged Fel needs more Pilots to run with. I could drop it if it seems inappropriate, though.

I could go for 18 squares. It gives him a lot of mobility, and it replaces turn, so I think 18 would be good. They jumped far in the game.

Sienar might make AT-STs playable. They would have 18 def, +12 attack and recover 30 HP each turn. And cost 49 points (39 with BS 1).

[Jm419]

Lol. I look forward to it.

Huh. The stone that started an avalanche, eh?

Riposte/Djem So is one of my favorite combos for melee pieces. It's a fasinating one. But Precision and Djem So is fun, too.

Yeah, I've always liked Wall Climber. It's nice, and I imagine that their armor was magnetic, so they could stick to walls. Lol.

That's good. If the one has a range limit, that'd be acceptable, but both together makes for a worse combo than Rex/Doombot.

Oh. Lol. That's what I thought, I just had to give you trouble.

Yeah, that'd be quite appropriate. Those guys moved like a quarter mile in the game if you jumped flat. Strangely enough, you never see them when you aren't playing as one.

Yeah. That'd be good, they're actually playable then, and accurate to how powerful they were in ROTJ.

[bountyhunter9]

Yeah, that sums it up pretty good. That was even before I had 501st Legion planned, which is why he works with other troopers.

Yeah, it is. It is a powerful one, too. Djem So Mastery and Precision accomplishes pretty much the same thing, tho you have to make the save.

Yeah, I think WC is underused. It isn't as obvious as Flight, and getting off a good move and taking out a key character behind enemy lines (Mas is my favourite target) is awesome.

Yeah, it probably was magnetic. Take every advantage you can get, eh? That sounds like the Empire. Oh, that reminds me, I found a hilarious quote on the Wook. Interested?

Lol. I should make a 501st Marine, and if I make a Pilot, I can drop Pilot from the Engineer.

Yeah, the jet packs were great fun to use. You don't really see them often, though I do remember a time on Mustafar when I got one to follow me into the lava, to see if he would jump away. Too bad jump packs don't work in mid-air.

[Jm419]

Oh, I thought it was normal Djem So. Nvm. Lol.

Oh, I like shooting at Mas, or Uggies - if one goes up, they all go up. Lol.

For sure.

Yeah. That would be better - but I like the fact that they updated the shotgun for Bf II. The one in the original was decent, but terrible at long range.

LOL. You did what?

What I like to do on Mustafar is to wait until the stormies come across the lava bridge, then destroy the lava bridge and kill like 10 of em. Though you don't get the kill credits, it's fun to watch. Same with Force pushing people off Mygeeto, or into the lava on Mustafar. Too bad Tatooine doesn't have a Sarlacc anymore. That was a fun level.

[bountyhunter9]

Lol. Yeah, just shooting the really weak targets is fun. It's also fun when you manage to kill like a 10-point piece with an Uggie. Or critting a big beat to finish them off.

Okay, here is that quote. Han Solo on what the Empire would do to try to win the Vong war:

"What the Empire would have done was build a supercolossal Yuuzhan Vong-killing battle machine. They would have called it the Nova Colossus… Galaxy Destructor or the Nostril of Palpatine or something equally grandiose… And you know what would have happened? It wouldn't have worked. They'd forget to bolt down a metal plate over an access hatch leading to the main reactors, or some other mistake, and a hotshot enemy pilot would drop a bomb down there and blow the whole thing up. Now that's what the Empire would have done."

Yeah, the original could kill most soldiers in one hit at close range, but was useless beyond 10 or 12 feet.

Yeah, I do a lot of crazy stuff in that game, like jump onto frigates in space using the hangar glitch.

Lol. That is fun. I forgot about the Sarlacc level. Why did they keep Mos Eislely, when the Dune Sea was one of the best maps in the game. The Tuskens were fun (and different, 3 opponents was cool), and pushing enemies into the Sarlacc would have been awesome.

Also, I liked that one map on Yavin 4. Arena or something. It was the only map in the originally that I would lose about half the time on. The Endor map was fun too. Being a Wookiee soldier, then jumping on a speeder and zipping across the level...sneaking into the shield bunker and blowing it up...classic.

EDIT: Also, I've added in the next characters, as well as the 501st Pilot and 501st Marine.

[Jm419]

I know. Taking out a Vader or Bane with an Uggie is one of the best possible moments in SWM.

Lol. That's exactly correct.

Right. And it didn't, you know, act like a shotgun.

If I remember correctly, Mos Eisely was really a battlefield prone to furious fighting, back when guns weren't super accurate. You'd come around the corner, and there'd be ten Rebels standing in an alleyway, and you and your little squad would open up, and the outcome wouldn't always be certain. I loved Mos Eisely in the original because of that. Arena was also prone to heavy fighting, especially in the central section, with the bunkers and stuff. Now, with the Elite Rifle (I always play as basic infantry), you can easily win every battle, sometimes without even dying. If you got through a battle on the original Battlefront with under three deaths, you were excellent. I go back and play the original game, and I'm terrible, because I rely too much on my Elite Rifle. The Dune Sea was probably too big a battlefield, too. I loved jumping into a starfighter, though, and meeting with the enemy pilots over the Round Table (the Sarlacc zone), and strafing the skiffs for four kills. Those larger fields were probably not as good as they should have been, because there were only thirty guys on there, on a battlefield the size of Rhen Var, Harbor. Rhen Var, Citadel was one of my favorites, too. On an unrelated note, do you ever even play Jabba's Palace on the second Battlefront?

Lol. Arena was awesome. The tunnels under the Arena were great areas for heavy fighting, and uncommon valor. I have a Kamino story, about uncommon valor, but for another time. If you're interested, I'll let you know.

Oh, come on. Really? After I posted all this stuff? I'll check them out next time through.

[Jm419]

Yeah, they look pretty good.

[bountyhunter9]

Yeah, it can be great fun.

Yeah, Mos Eisley is fun, especially when you play as all the heroes, jumping over everything. They should have left out one of the space ones (Space: Felucia, isn't really fun) for the Dune Sea. The Sarlacc and Tuskens were awesome. So was that one Cloud City map with all the starfighters. The other CC map was pretty good, too.

Rhen Var is, and will forever be, my favourite planet - both maps on it are my favourites. One really big map with a lot of vehicles and turrets, and of course an AT-AT, the ice cave for secret attacks - and it was actually a challenge at times, stopping the AT-AT without snowspeeders. The Citadel is probably my favourite: good close-quarters fighting, good long range fighting, lots of turrets, incredibly detailed (like the wholes in the rooves for sneak attacks, or the building over the one command post, or the long bridge to the wide-open command post. Awesome. And so many back allies and stuff. Jet troopers were awesome on that level.

Yeah, I use the Elite Rifle pretty much all the time, too. On Mustafar, for example, I just kill 10 clones on the command post with the controls to the lava bridge, then use Darth Maul (who is extremely overpowered) to clear out the entire map and capture all the command posts in less than 5 minutes. I try to use the Engineer and Sniper a bit, too. Especially on Polis Massa, I love to go out onto the surface of the asteroid as a Droid Engineer, hack an enemy vehicle, and shoot them while they suffocate. Good way to get the medals.

I do some times, mostly for the fun of the Rancor and running in jail cells and almost having a heart attack when a Gamorrean runs in. It is like a poor attempt at a more detailed map - it has the Rancor, Gamorreans, secret passages, etc., but the walls, hallways all seem boring.

Lol. I'm interested, when you're ready to post it.

Yeah, they're solid, if unspectacular. Does the Marine look good, compared to the heavy trooper?

[Jm419]

Mos Eisely isn't as good of a field as it used to be, because the strategy's gone. You can jump over stuff instead of fighting street-to-street, and in some cases, room-to-room, with semi-accurate blasters. I'll agree with you on the space - and why did they pick those planets? I really like both Space Coruscant and Space Mustafar, because the planet looks so cool, but instead we got Dagobah and Felucia. The Tuskens were super fun to blast into the pit - you know, shoot at their feet so they fly from the concussion. I used to call that Execute Order 1.

I'll totally agree with you there. Citadel was easily the best map in the whole game, but Cloud City came close. Both Rhen Var and Bespin had two good, balanced, exciting maps. The Ice Caves on Harbor led to so much strategy, and I'd often try to steal Rebel speeders when being an Imperial. And I could get away with it, most of the time. On Bespin, Cloud City (one of my favorites, as well), fighting was awesome on that bridge over the chasm, in the back corner. Platforms was awesome, and I'm an excellent pilot, so I often fly, but when I don't, and fight through the tunnels between the platforms, that makes for some of the heaviest fighting in the entire game. Fifteen guys on a side, fighting along a tunnel with no cover and no way around...you could usually hammer your way through, but throw a few droidekas in there, and if you were a clone, that meant you weren't going to survive.

Maul is way overpowered. I had 268 kills in one life with him once, as compared to my second-best, which was 112 in an AT-ST on Hoth. I like using Anakin on Mustafar, because you can trap the Rebels in the back command post and just throw your saber through the open door, run away, have the door close, but your lightsaber would cut through seven or eight Rebels, then return to you. On the other hand, some heroes are absolutely terrible, like Leia or Palpatine. Anyone without saber throw I don't like to use (although Yoda's a bit of an exception) and Ki-Adi Mundi's attacks are so wierd, I go off the edge of the platforms on Mygeeto half the time.

LOL. I hate Gamorreans. I always have the heart attack, too, when I run into one - they hit you once, they kill you, you hit them once, they keep coming.

Well, I was playing Imperial, and I was an Imperial Engineer who had captured both forward Rebel CP's on BFII. The one in the cloning facility, and the one on the "platform of death," where about fifteen turrets can simultaneously target you, not to mention three excellent sniper posts, while people on the platform have absolutely no cover. Well, anyway, after capturing those two, I had bottled up the Rebels in the upper CP, while they had one way out. But, the turret on the projection that hangs out over the platform of death was chewing up my guys, so I had to do something about it. I had like three shots left in my shotgun, and since Engineers have no pistol, I was pretty much out of luck, and I just charged up that ramp, through the enemy CP and hoard, unloaded my three shots into Rebel scum on the way through, and ran out towards the turret. I slapped a detonator charge to the turret, but was getting down in health, and had no chance of surviving if I stayed there to detonate. So, I jumped off into empty space. However, lucky me, there was a platform way way below me, and I was like, "I'm so not surviving this fall." But, I did, and I turned around, looked back up at the turret projection, and detonated. I saw the explosion from beneath the platform, and the Rebel gunner went flying, but missed the platform. Since there were like 90 Rebels still left, I had to do something for the rest of the fight, so I went up to the platform of death CP and changed classes to a Stormtrooper. Since I had taken out the turret, the remaining Imperials had managed to prevent the Rebels from escaping their CP area, and still had them pinned down at the top of the ramp. So, I went up there, about halfway up the ramp, crouched down, and just kept firing with my Elite Rifle, till the Rebels stopped coming. I earned Survivalist, Camper, Deadeye, and Public enemy that life - I didn't die that battle, and my final kill total was 82. It was the coolest Battlefront battle I've ever been in.

They look good. Penetration is a nice touch.

[bountyhunter9]

Yeah, there isn't as much strategy, sadly, because of the Elite Rifle. I like to play as the sniper sometimes, but the sniper rifle is harder to control in BF II, and the award rifle is extremely hard to get and sucks, compared to the other award guns. The guided rockets are a lot of fun but not wholly useful, you have to be precise and the controls can be sticky. Plus they are almost impossible to get. I think I have like 4, in comparison to 1700+ Endurance medals.

Yeah, those Space Planets were weird. I can see what they were doing, by giving us one of each type of set up, but the planets were stupid. I guess it was because they wanted to keep all the space battle fields restricted to one faction, which they wouldn't be able to do with Coruscant or some other planets. I always play Space Mygeeto, because of the three frigates and my preference for the Droid Bomber.

LOL. That's great! Execute Order 1 is awesome. I'm going to try that next time I play.

Yeah, CC was really good too. The Carbonite chamber and the giant chasm thing were really cool to fight on, and shooting rockets down the crowded narrow corridors was really fun.

The platforms were fun too, I liked shooting down the fighters with the AA Turrets.

Yeah, Maul is probably the most broken hero in the game. I single-handedly win Polis Massa, Naboo, etc. every time I play as him. I almost never die, unless I make a last-ditch run onto the asteroid at the end of the game to kill an AAT. 268 kills is impressive, even with Maul.

Leia can be alright, but the Jedi are better than the shooter heroes. The saber throw is overpowered, too. One hit does more damage than a normal attack, and using it is almost always preferrable to a normal attack unless really close. Ki-Adi Mundi is weird, I try to string together some kills with his lunging attack, but I always miss. Lol.

Yeah. I actually survived a hit by one once - I was Luke Skywalker with full health, and when he hit me I had almost nothing left, but I survived. I only lasted another couple seconds, but it was pretty amazing to have survived.

That is a cool story. The falling damage in the game doesn't seem to be totally realistic, I have had multiple experiences in space where I've jumped off the capital ship onto frigates hundreds of yards bellow, and survived. Perhaps that has to be with the vaccuum, but it is weird that such a fall can be survived.

Yeah, Penetration is good. Makes him more unique than the heavy.

[Jm419]

I actually prefer the basic rifle to the Award Sniper. The Award Rifle is not really any good at all, seeing as how, 50% of the time, the game fails to register your perfect shot. I like the skill needed for the basic sniper rifle better, it's more fun anyway. Imagine the terror of an enemy you hit in the shoulder; he knows what's coming next.

The way I earned the Guided Rocket Launcher is by playing Hoth, over and over. The AT-AT's have the largest Critical Hit area of any vehicle, and, best of all, they don't move very fast. The neck is the area to aim for, and if you don't care about your kill total, just respawn after you earn the award. If you do care about the kill total, just make sure you earn the award at some time during the battle.

See, I hate fighting the droids because of that massive hanger on the Providence - Class Cruisers. At least on the Venator-Class, the Imperial-Class, and the Mon-Calamari Cruisers, the hangers only had one door, but, thanks to one single shot in ROTS, the droids have a huge advantage for their hangar, and they're much harder to kill because they have way more ships. Personally, I like playing Imperials or Rebels, maybe Clones (but the hangar limitation...), just because I like the planets better. As for layout, I like the two frigate layout for the Clone Wars, where the two ships are facing each other, and way way way far apart.

Lol.

Oh, yeah. Or thermal detonators; guys would get blown out of windows. I killed Vader that way, once. The heroes were nigh invincible in the original Battlefront.

I hated turrets; if one got you in it's sights, you were dead, especially in a bomber. It was usually safer in the corridors...unless you were a clone.

LOL. Polis Massa/Mustafar are my favorite maps. Polis Massa is like CC Ver 2.0, because it lends itself to furious fighting. I try to survive that long battle in the campaign on Polis Massa, as a Stormtrooper, and I only managed it once. For a paltry 90 something kills.

Han is a great shooter hero. I hate both Fetts, though, I'll specifically not play as them when offered because normal infantry are better. Same with Chewbacca - who I only found about yesterday. Lol. He's only in two battles, though.

Wow. Amazing.

How do you jump out of fighters - or capital ships? I have the XBOX version, and I don't believe it's possible.

I agree.

[bountyhunter9]

Yeah, sometimes the particle beam goes right through the target, which is stupid.

Lol. That would suck. Your only hope is the sniper just used the last shot of his clip. Lol.

I've tried that, and it is the only way I've gotten my 4 medals. I try it on Geonosis sometimes, but I always get killed. I think I'll try the Hoth thing more, I like the guided rockets.

That is a big advantage, I'm surprised they didn't shoot close one of the doors to keep it fair. I just like how heavy the bombs are on the Droid Bomber.

Lol. I once killed Vader on the Dune Sea map, by running him over with a speeder. That's the only time I've ever killed a hero in that game. Lol.

Yeah, the autoturrets would rip you apart quickly, and it is almost impossible to avoid them unless you cut off your attack run.

I can't imagine surviving Polis Massa, by the one command post at the end when the enemy only has one left, they just keep coming and you have like 15 clones shooting at you.

Yeah, the Fetts are weird. The flamethrower is cool, and the jetpack is good on Kamino. But otherwise a Stormie is better, yeah.

I have the Xbox version, too. It is a glitch, and it takes careful maneuvering. What you do is get in a ship, and then land, take off, land, take off, etc. etc. until you can get it so your ship is a bit out into space and still in the hangar. Then hop out. You'll probably end up on top of the ship you were flying, and then, if it's a Venator-class or Star Destroyer (with the edges beneath the hangar), you can walk out there. On Mygeeto, you can jump onto the Acclamator-class frigate that's beneath the capital ship, then walk around on that. It's quite fun, but you die a lot. Even more fun is to use a Republic Gunship, so allies will spawn out in space with you, then drop time bombs and blow them off the ship. Lol.