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Post by bountyhunter9 on Jun 15, 2009 20:58:31 GMT -5
Ohh yeah, WotC really should come out with some pieces like these (or at least with a Stormie specific CE, like the Snowtrooper/Sandtrooper got).
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Post by bountyhunter9 on Jun 17, 2009 7:55:41 GMT -5
Okay, I changed Thrawn, IC's CE to one of the ones suggested in Stat Creation, and updated the cost to 38.
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Post by Jm419 on Jun 19, 2009 20:15:49 GMT -5
Okay. Sounds good to me.
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Post by bountyhunter9 on Jun 19, 2009 20:24:48 GMT -5
Yea. Is this faction done, or is there something else I've missed?
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Post by bountyhunter9 on Jun 20, 2009 11:21:17 GMT -5
Okay, after some careful revision, I've removed Satchel Charge from the SCSL.
Also, I've added in all SA and FP definitions.
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Post by bountyhunter9 on Jun 26, 2009 21:56:36 GMT -5
Okay, with the discussion on Thrawn, MT, would trooper followers instead of non-unique be alright?
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Post by Jm419 on Jun 26, 2009 21:58:50 GMT -5
+5/+5 is a lot. While it isn't all followers, it's still incredibly strong; a Stormtrooper would be at 21 defense and a +9 Attack (I think, not sure about Attack, though). Cost for this would have to be much higher than we previously thought.
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Post by bountyhunter9 on Jun 27, 2009 8:36:43 GMT -5
It is +9 attack. But remember, this isn't even the most powerful CE in the Empire. DV, IC gives Stormies a +6 boost to defense. Throw GAT in there and they have +7 attack. Throw Mas in there for unlimited range. Sure, it costs quite a bit, but those pieces can actually fight, while this guy can't. The CE is only 3 squares too, so Mas can't affect it. Mouse Droids can use it, but then you're paying 50+ points for a +5/+5 CE to your Stormtroopers, and MT. Remember, even at +5/+5, this CE still isn't as strong as GOWK's, but I don't want to compare him to a broken piece.
However, +5/+5 is a lot, even for a troopers, and maybe it was doomed to fail from the beginning. Would a +4/+4 CE to trooper followers be better?
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Post by Jm419 on Jun 27, 2009 12:20:08 GMT -5
Uh...well, if it is only to Troopers, I suppose it couldn't hurt - even if they could then get 35 Defense from cover. Lol.
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Post by bountyhunter9 on Jun 27, 2009 12:45:35 GMT -5
Idk. I would lke to see him with a powerful and simple CE, but the last thing I want is for him to be broken. Trooper followers definitely makes it more balanced (ie, FelCor with +5/+5). The +5 defense is powerful, but isn't as powerful as Vader, IC's +6 defense. So +5 def is alright (I think). +5 attack is powerful, also because they are troopers that can benefit from other CEs that increase attack/damage (Admiral Piett gives out Opportunist, to name one).
But then let's look at this character. A high cost to pay for a guy who can't even attack or defense himself, and you'll have to use quite a few mice to keep his CE going, as he will probably die first if your opponent has anything to say about it.
There are a number of ways I could go on this. Here are a few that I've come up with:
Make it adjacent trooper followers that gain +5/+5.
Reduce the CE to +4/+4, possibly increase it to 6 squares if it stays on trooper followers.
Keep it as is, but only affect trooper followers.
What do you think?
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Post by Jm419 on Jun 27, 2009 17:12:53 GMT -5
Oh, wait, it isn't board wide?
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Post by bountyhunter9 on Jun 27, 2009 17:41:11 GMT -5
Whose CE? Thrawn, MT's?
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Post by Jm419 on Jun 27, 2009 21:36:08 GMT -5
Yes. Yours. Hmm. It seems that I misread it.
How about Trooper followers within six squares?
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Post by bountyhunter9 on Jun 28, 2009 8:57:57 GMT -5
I think that would be fine, but with +4/+4 or +5/+5?
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Post by Jm419 on Jun 28, 2009 12:07:51 GMT -5
Either one. +5/+5 wouldn't be out of the question, but +4/+4 is probably safer.
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