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Post by Sharrakor on Apr 24, 2009 19:08:01 GMT -5
Separatist Acolyte Cost: 27 HP: 70 Def: 17 Atk: +8 Dmg: 20
Special Abilities Melee Attack; Double Attack Twin Attack Loner
Force Powers Force 2 Lightsaber Deflect
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Post by bountyhunter9 on Apr 29, 2009 17:51:28 GMT -5
Doesn't look like there's much to say, it's simple and I don't think there are any CEs that would make it broken. Maybe drop the attack by a point, but I think it looks good.
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Post by planeswalker459 on Apr 29, 2009 18:41:21 GMT -5
A generic dark jedi for the seps. Not too bad there.
Only thing I am worried about is the fact it gets 4 attacks of on its own.
Looking at generic melee threats in the game, all those with 4 attacks are rare and unique. That may be something to consider.
Currently, the Echanni is one of the only non uniques and non rares to have double/twin. The other thing to consider is she is a shooter.
Does this mean its bad? Not at all-Just something to consider.
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Post by bountyhunter9 on May 1, 2009 15:34:01 GMT -5
Yeah I don't know about 4 attacks. I think it is alright, at least because I can't think of any CEs that would boost its damage or attack. You could swap Lightsaber Deflect for Lightsaber Assault, and drop Double Attack, if there is a problem with 4 attacks on a generic. Or, maybe even better, lower the HP a bit, to 60. Just some thoughts. Good work.
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Post by Roque Saber on May 2, 2009 0:17:28 GMT -5
You could drop twin and add Djem So...
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Post by generalgrevious on May 8, 2009 8:40:37 GMT -5
All this guy can get I beleive is Momentum from Durge and Deadly Attack (At least from sep commanders) so i think hes good. Good jedi for Seps.
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Post by Roque Saber on May 11, 2009 14:28:10 GMT -5
So, are we going to keep the 4 attacks, or change something?
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Post by generalgrevious on May 12, 2009 8:36:30 GMT -5
Really his MAX attack is +12 w/o commanders and thats if he is all alone and no sep commander can increase that higher (Durge's ce could give him 30 damage with 12 attack but not 16 attack but you wouldn't double twin with momentum anyway). I think the four attacks is good.
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Post by Roque Saber on May 12, 2009 14:41:37 GMT -5
K then, just need 3 people to approve
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Post by bountyhunter9 on May 12, 2009 14:42:24 GMT -5
I like it.
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Post by gwek on May 12, 2009 22:12:40 GMT -5
All this guy can get I beleive is Momentum from Durge and Deadly Attack (At least from sep commanders) so i think hes good. Good jedi for Seps. Well, see, that's just the Seps. Don't forget the Fringe, which allow him to get Mobile, Deadeye, and Mighty Swing. Enough to torpedo the concept? Nah, but it should definitely be considered. Under the right circumstances, he can dish out four attacks of 40 each. The comparisons to the Echani Handmaiden are valid, but remember that she's got only 40 HP. And sure, she has Twin Attack, but so can any 10 damage shooter these days, when paired with the CzerkSci.
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Post by Roque Saber on May 12, 2009 23:22:57 GMT -5
Very good point, Gwek. However, unless using Mouse Droids, those commanders are going to be exposed to heavy fire. I think it all balances out pretty well. Perhaps his defense could be dropped by a point.
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Post by gwek on May 12, 2009 23:47:03 GMT -5
Who WOULDN'T use Mouse Droids with these guys? First thing I'm doing is closeting away a Weequay Leader, then sending two of Acolytes out there with Mouse Droids and Mighty Swing... Seriously, though, I'm not saying that any major changes need to be made, but want to point out the potential Fringe synergy. I think it's a solid piece, and the fact is, Fringe synergy aside, there's not much support from it's own faction, but the Fringe commander effects shouldn't be forgotten.
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Post by generalgrevious on May 13, 2009 8:47:29 GMT -5
But still with the fring commander effects this guy won't hit very often with the Double/Twin. He can't use Loner while within 6 of a mouse. He can't Momentum and Double, and I can't think of any other Commander Effects that would give him an attack bonus. I think he will be good with the Double/Twin.
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Post by gwek on May 13, 2009 13:36:43 GMT -5
I'm not saying he shouldn't have Double/Twin, just pointing out some of the possible combos (and the only CE I can think of that would help him is Jolee's +2 Attack, +2 Defense).
I think he's a good piece overall, but would maybe up the price by a few points OR lower Defense and/or HP a bit.
I think he's good, but probably worth high 20s rather than low 20s as he is now.
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