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Post by Sharrakor on Mar 9, 2009 4:01:10 GMT -5
Incinerator Trooper (11)
HP: 20
Def: 15
Atk: +5
Dmg: 10
Special Abilities
Melee Attack
Flamethrower 20
Self Destruct 20
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Post by Roque Saber on Apr 20, 2009 13:31:33 GMT -5
Why Melee? Why not just 0 attack, 0 damage like the Zabrak Fringer?
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Post by gwek on Apr 22, 2009 22:06:46 GMT -5
I have the same question as RS, although for the price, he's a substandard trooper (Flamethrower aside), so it seems decently well-balanced.
My issue is with Flamethrower 20. I think it should be lowered to FT10. With the exception of the SAD (which is an expensive droid), there are no generics with Flamethrower 20. This would also represent the cheapest Flamethrower 20 option, by a pretty large margin (the next one up costs 18).
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Post by Roque Saber on Apr 23, 2009 10:06:40 GMT -5
Here's a slightly modified version of Monni316's stats from Wizards.
INCINERATOR TROOPER
Faction: Imperial
Cost: 16
HP: 30
Def: 15
Att: +0
Dmg: 0
Special Abilities:
Flamethrower 20
Shields 1
And it seems very playable. I hope you realize, gwek, that almost any character in the game has access to 20 damage or more. An 18 point piece with 20 HP would be a waste of points. Plus, Flamethrower is not that common of an ability, it's mainly on higher end Bounty Hunters The cheapest FT that we have is on the Zabrak Fringer (FT 10 for 11 pts, though that was RotS)
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Post by gwek on Apr 23, 2009 13:48:06 GMT -5
I understand perfectly well that most characters have access to 20 damage or more.
However, and attack that does 20 damage is VERY different than the ability to automatically do damage--without roll or save--at a distance (to potentially multiple characters).
There's a reason that FT20 is mostly on higher end bounty hunters.
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Post by Roque Saber on Apr 23, 2009 20:56:23 GMT -5
Hmm. If only there was a Flamethrower 15...  If he had FT 10, he would need to cost less, maybe like 11-13? |
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Post by gwek on Apr 23, 2009 23:10:43 GMT -5
There have been times I've wished for a bit more gradation myself...
Tough to price until we see what Sharrakor wants to do with it. If he decides to drop FT 10, there's still the question of whether it has melee attack and 10 damage vs att/dam=0...
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Post by Sharrakor on Apr 24, 2009 3:29:15 GMT -5
Ok, I'll lower it to FT10.
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Post by Roque Saber on Apr 24, 2009 9:51:19 GMT -5
What about the damage and attack?
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Post by Sharrakor on Apr 24, 2009 18:34:00 GMT -5
Well, preferably I'd like to keep it as is. It prevents him from being ranged I guess. And they did melee you.
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Post by Roque Saber on Apr 25, 2009 0:36:29 GMT -5
"they did melee you"
Huh?
Anyway, if you just don't want him shooting, that still doesn't mean he needs to have an attack and damage value.
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Post by Sharrakor on Apr 25, 2009 5:28:17 GMT -5
They melee'd you. As in they hit you with their weapon. When you were close that is.
What character with Melee doesn't have an Attack and Damage value?
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Post by bountyhunter9 on Apr 27, 2009 15:18:48 GMT -5
Well, I've been thinking, and, if you wanted to give him a "Flamethrower 15", you could do something like this:
Flamethrower: (replaces attacks: range 6; 20 damage to target and each adjacent target, save 11. On a success, the characters instead take 10 damage)
It's just a thought, he could have Flamethrower 10. What do you think?
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Post by Roque Saber on Apr 28, 2009 13:33:26 GMT -5
That would be interesting.
@sharrakor Ah, I understand now. However, other characters who rely on special abilities as their only attack (aka Zabrak Fringer) don't have melee or attack/damage values.
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Post by darthblond on Aug 14, 2009 1:12:08 GMT -5
What about just giving him 0 dam and then mighty swing? That way he cant just run around hitting people.
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If he had FT 10, he would need to cost less, maybe like 11-13?
