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Post by Sharrakor on Jan 29, 2009 4:14:34 GMT -5
Master Zez-Kai Ell (55)
HP: 110
Def: 20
Atk: +13
Dmg: 20
Special Abilities
Unique
Melee Attack; Triple Attack
Stealth
Ataru Style
Force Powers
Force 2. Force Renewal 1
Force Push 5
Lightsaber Block
Recovery 20
Another from my HotOR set.
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Post by gwek on Jan 30, 2009 12:30:27 GMT -5
You DO love mobile Triple Attack and Stealth on your Force users, don't ya?  |
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Post by planeswalker459 on Feb 2, 2009 18:51:38 GMT -5
I wish my Zez-Kai Ell hadnt been lsot to the nether...he was so close to being finalized too!
Anywho, not bad.
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Post by gwek on Feb 2, 2009 21:58:16 GMT -5
Pretty solid, but it's a LOT for one guy. Not sure that it would all fit on a regular size card.  I also think the price is probably low, given the potent mix of offensive and defensive abilities AND Force powers. |
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Post by surfrider56 on Feb 4, 2009 18:55:04 GMT -5
Pretty solid, but it's a LOT for one guy. Not sure that it would all fit on a regular size card. I also think the price is probably low, given the potent mix of offensive and defensive abilities AND Force powers. Not that I believe its the be all/end all of answers, but just for the heck of it, I ran your stats thru a card generator. 76pts Thats a heck of a lot of points for a guy that's technically not a major character and gets beaten by a 43pt Kreia. One of the better Jedi at the time? Probably. But wouldn't he fall into the Kit Fisto/Ki-Adi Mundi range of important, as opposed to the Mace/Yoda class? Just out of curiosity, why ARE you so in love with Triple Attack; because they have the two bladed lightsaber? I can't point fingers about Stealth since I like Stealth so much myself |
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Post by Sharrakor on Feb 9, 2009 21:28:27 GMT -5
I don't know why everyone seems to think I like Triple Attack so much. I don't really. I only place it where I feel it fits best. Which is not really alot of characters.
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Post by gwek on Feb 9, 2009 21:30:32 GMT -5
Welcome back, man! Sorry I bumped a lot of your stuff to the second page!
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Post by Sharrakor on Feb 10, 2009 0:38:51 GMT -5
Hey, don't worry about it. At least they're still here. Last time I went away...  And thanks, its good to be back. |
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Post by gwek on Feb 10, 2009 2:17:44 GMT -5
Taking a closer look at hte stats, I think maybe he needs a little more focus. He's a very potent melee combatant AND Force user. Most characters have to pick one (and as Surfrider points out, basically a punk...).
There's also an interesting dynamic with the Force Power 5 abilities produced by WotC: the pieces who have they don't have anything cheap to fall back on. They all (well, all 3 of them) have BIG Force powers, and not much else. Something to consider from a game balance point of view.
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Post by Sharrakor on Feb 10, 2009 23:35:09 GMT -5
I changed him around a bit. Any better?
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Post by gwek on Mar 15, 2009 17:40:03 GMT -5
I think he looks good, but may be a bit cheap. My generator (which is usually low on unique characters over 30) puts him at 49 WITHOUT Ataru or Force Push 5.
I'd say drop Recovery and keep the cost where it is.
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Post by Sharrakor on Mar 16, 2009 3:36:39 GMT -5
What if I lower Force Push? I don't really want to remove Recovery.
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Post by gwek on Mar 16, 2009 22:15:00 GMT -5
Right now, you've got Recovery on a few characters. That makes them all less unique (and maybe less interesting). If you like in on ZKE, I'd say lower Force Push a bit, but consider taking it off Vrook.
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Post by Jm419 on Apr 13, 2009 16:48:28 GMT -5
What do we want to do here?
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Post by Sharrakor on Apr 14, 2009 3:13:38 GMT -5
Well, I dunno. I suppose it does make each of my characters with Recovery less Unique if Zez-Kai Ell keeps it, so I guess I'll remove it.
Oh. But what if I replace Recovery with Repulse? Its something new and Unique to the OR.
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