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Post by maverick on Jan 5, 2009 23:38:21 GMT -5
Saba Sebatyne, Combat Master (dual lightsaber) New Republic Cost 71
Hp 150 Def 22 Att 14 Dam 20
Melee Attack Triple Attack Greater Mobile Lightsaber Duelist
Force 2 Renewal 1 MOF 2 Force Sense – f1 Master Speed – f1 Lightsaber Precision +20 – f2 Force leap – f1
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Post by maverick on Feb 17, 2009 10:36:37 GMT -5
bump
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Post by gwek on Feb 19, 2009 0:07:13 GMT -5
I like Saba, don't get me wrong, but is she REALLY this powerful? This is, like, Luke Skywalker/Mace Windu powerful, and I just don't see her being quite this top tier.
I think she could be dropped down a little, to the same general range as Kyle Katarn BM, and would still be quite useful and effective for her faction.
Also, while this piece has a great range of abilities, I don't know that it "feels like Saba." Yes, she's used most of these abilities at one time or another, but that whole predatory/instinct/hunter feel that makes Saba stand out in the books... Not sure how to reflect it, but I feel like it's sort of missing here.
All in all, I think this is a really good start, but could be focused a little more tightly.
Oh, and GMA + Triple scares me a little. WotC hasn't given it to anyone yet, so proceed with caution!
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Post by maverick on Feb 20, 2009 0:30:06 GMT -5
I always thought she was near them in her combat skills but probably not in force skills. But I've been wrong before...once.
You think I should drop precision 20, deulist, and greater mobile?
How about double twin with mobile?
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Post by gwek on Feb 26, 2009 1:46:50 GMT -5
I don't know what changes I'd make specifically, I'd just probably try to get her to less than 55. But that's my personal opinion, and others might disagree.
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Post by bountyhunter9 on Apr 13, 2009 19:49:24 GMT -5
If she's not as good as Luke/Mace in the Force, why does he have Renewal and MotF?
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Post by planeswalker459 on Apr 14, 2009 12:16:04 GMT -5
Drop hp by 20, Lightsaber precision entirely, and force sense to Lightsaber Defense.
Saba was not very strong in the force...she was strong enough to be a Council member, but so was Ki Adi Mundi.
Her strengths lied in combat, especially as a barabel, a race naturally adept at combat. Since the havent been made as a race, think of her more along the line of a trandoshan Jedi.
That said, instead of greater mobile, perhaps regeneration 10/20, and Bloodthirsty, as she had been known to "rage" in combat.
Sorry if this seems harsh, its not meant to Maverick. Saba just happens to be a character i really enjoyed int he NJO series, and this representation just doesnt fit the character I knew....she is just too pwoerful for a saba as is.
That said, I really like what your trying to accomplish with her.
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Post by gwek on Apr 15, 2009 20:09:32 GMT -5
I think PW's suggestions are pretty spot on. Bloodthirsty, in particularly, in a nice touch. Not sure about Regeneration, though. I know she's hearty, but don't remember the Barabel regenerating.
With respect to Force points, even though she's a Jedi Master, might be worth considering the "Mace route" (4-6 FP, no Renewal) rather than the "Yoda route" (fewer initial points paired with Force Renewal).
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Post by planeswalker459 on Apr 15, 2009 23:40:24 GMT -5
I cant get on to Wookiepedia atm, but I think they could regenerate. Might be wrong though. Always good to check
Agree about the force. 5 or 6 should suit her just fine.
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Post by gwek on Apr 16, 2009 17:16:35 GMT -5
Nothing on Wookieepedia about regeneration. I wish I had my alien RPG book with me, but I packed away all the non-Saga stuff...
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Post by bountyhunter9 on Jun 19, 2009 21:40:54 GMT -5
I don't remember the Wook saying anything about them regenerating, but a Barabel Jedi in the NR database had a 'Healing Trance' Force power. Might be because they could regenerate or heal.
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Post by generalgrevious on Jul 9, 2009 11:35:26 GMT -5
Okay after reading her Wookiepedia page I created this
Saba Sebatyne
Cost: 52 Hitpoints: 130 Defense: 21 Attack: +13 Damage: 20
Special Abilities: Unique Melee Attack Triple Attack Jedi Master (Allied Leia gains +4 Attack and +4 Defense while within 6 squares of this character) Lightsaber Duelist
Force 1 Force Renewal 1 Force Sense Lightsaber Assault Lightsaber Defense Force Valor
She kind of was a leader so I wanted her to have the ability to be a commander. She was also Leia's master so I wanted to represent that. Her battle skills seemed to be about the same as Kyles but more defensive.
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Post by bountyhunter9 on Jul 9, 2009 11:42:50 GMT -5
Not bad, GG. I think I would change the name on Synergy since it is different from the other Synergies. Other than that I think it looks pretty good, but NR isn't my specialty and I don't know what else to say.
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Post by generalgrevious on Jul 10, 2009 10:29:51 GMT -5
Changed Synergy to a new ability Jedi Master
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Post by saber1 on Oct 23, 2009 16:01:25 GMT -5
I'm new to the boards here, but as a fan of NR in general and Saba specifically, I thought I would chime in my two pennies. The custom below is from my custom set GALACTIC CONQUEST which can be found in the custom set forum. I also have a SS Jedi Master custom which I will post when I am able.
Saba Sebatyne Cost: 48 Faction: New Republic Hit Points: 130 Defense: 21 Attack: 12 Damage: 20
Special Abilities Unique, Melee Attack, Double Attack Cunning (+4 Attack and +10 Damage against an enemy who has not activated this round) Greater Mobile Attack (Can move both before and after attacking. This character can make extra attacks even if it moves this turn, but it must make them all before resuming movement) Intuition (Once per round, after initiative is determined, this character can immediately move up to its speed before any other character activates) Pilot
Force Powers Force 2, Force Renewal 1 Force Push 2 (Force 2, replaces attacks: range 6; 20 Damage; push back target 2 squares if Huge or smaller) Force Valor (Force 2, replaces attacks: For the rest of the skirmish, this character gains the following commander effect: Followers within 6 squares gain +2 Attack and +2 Defense) Lightsaber Block (Force 1: When hit by a melee attack, this character takes no damage with a save of 11)
This custom is to reflect Saba prior to attaining the rank of Master. She was quite skilled in the force, having trained a squadron of jedi knights before ever meeting Luke Skywalker. She was strong in telekinesis (Push 2), Jedi Battle Melds and commanding others (Force Valor) and a very proficient combatant (LS Block). Intuition and Cunning were incorporated to portray her predatory nature.
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