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Post by Sharrakor on Mar 9, 2009 3:58:49 GMT -5
Imperial Shadow Trooper (15) HP: 20 Def: 16 Atk: +5 Dmg: 20
Special Abilities Double Attack Ambush Cloaked Advantageous Attack
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Post by Roque Saber on Apr 14, 2009 10:33:22 GMT -5
Don't we already have a "Shadow Stormtrooper" Also, technically, Shadowtroopers were the dark jedi-stormtrooper hybrids of the Empire Reborn.
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Post by Sharrakor on Apr 14, 2009 19:43:44 GMT -5
Yes, technically Shadowtroopers were the Dark Jedi people. But Shadow troopers weren't. And there's the Shadow Stormtroopers which were Cronal's Stormtroopers. The Imperials are very picky about their names.
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Post by Roque Saber on Apr 20, 2009 13:16:11 GMT -5
Ok, name it Shadow Trooper and give it the ability Shadow Stormtrooper (read Shadow Guard thread for reason) I would make this guy (if the whole Shadow Guard's reserves work out) about the same price as the Shadow Stormtrooper. Make him 13ish points, but keep cloaked. This can be the stealthier, but slightly weaker version. I think just Cloaked and Advantaegous or Deceptive would do the trick, he doesn't get an attack boost like the original, but he has better surviveability and damage output.
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Post by bountyhunter9 on May 4, 2009 18:24:22 GMT -5
I agree with RS.
I like the idea of Deceptive and Cloaked. Double/Cunning would lead to 60 damage without any external factors. That seems to be a lot of damage on a non-unique trooper with a low cost.
Also, I don't think he really needs Ambush (although I think it was a good idea) because he is ranged, and Ambush seems to be meant to go on those with melee. I think you could either drop Double and Ambush and replace Cunning with Deceptive, or bring him down to 10 damage, keep Double, drop Ambush and Cunning and give him Deceptive.
What do you think about that?
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Post by Roque Saber on May 5, 2009 18:25:52 GMT -5
keep him as is, but drop Ambush and Double and replace Cunning with Decpetive
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Post by bountyhunter9 on May 22, 2009 11:34:44 GMT -5
I think that would be the best course to take for this fig. The cost may have to go down with the new changes, I think. Although he is very stealthy and can deal 30 damage, he is very fragile. I think a cost of 10, 11 would be alright.
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Post by Roque Saber on May 26, 2009 23:44:15 GMT -5
Look good?
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Post by bountyhunter9 on May 27, 2009 7:56:20 GMT -5
I think so. We'll have to see what Sharrakor thinks.
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Post by Roque Saber on Jun 2, 2009 10:22:08 GMT -5
He hasn't been on lately, so don't count on anything
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Post by Sharrakor on Jun 3, 2009 1:25:30 GMT -5
Apologies, Roque. I hope my absence didn't cause any issues.
I still prefer the way I created it. Although perhaps I might raise the cost, and replace Cunning with Advantageous Attack (I don't use it often enough). In fact I think that is what I'll do.
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Post by Roque Saber on Jun 13, 2009 12:10:32 GMT -5
So you would prefer the double/ambush combo? The potential 60 damage with cloaked is a little scary, but then again the Storm Commando has access to that also. Cloaked with Deceptive just seemed a little simpler and more straight to the point.
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Post by bountyhunter9 on Jun 13, 2009 13:29:08 GMT -5
I don't necessarily have a problem with it, but it is such an odd piece. It is very weak defensively but has enormous offensive potential for 15 points, but a low attack. The Strom Commando could at least take a few hits before he went down, but with almost all melee attacks doing 20 damage (or more), this guy can be taken down pretty easily, even with Cloaked. He will be a huge target if he has Ambush. I think that the simplest solution would be to give him damage 10, although the problem their is that he can gain Twin.
I think if you gave him Twin and KEPT Ambush (as you seem to like it on him), he would be fine (he can gain Double from DV, LotF). Although that would be 4 attacks, it is basically the same as he is now (but you have to pay for Vader). What do you think of that?
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Post by Roque Saber on Jun 14, 2009 17:23:30 GMT -5
Or just give him base 20 damage, Deceptive (Opportunist, Cunning, or whatever) and GMA.
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Post by bountyhunter9 on Jun 14, 2009 17:32:08 GMT -5
Yeah, I could see that working. We'll have to wait and see what Sharrakor thinks of that.
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